Dennis Walker of the Mycopreneur Podcast sits down with Tracey Tee, a serial entrepreneur and the Founder of Moms On Mushrooms.
After sharing publicly about the benefits that microdosing brought into her life in a time of profound personal struggle from losing her profitable and fulfilling business overnight, Tracey Tee discovered that many more moms in her community were interested in exploring the value of microdosing for themselves. Tracey then started Moms On Mushrooms to help empower a community of moms to learn about the value of building a relationship with mushrooms and to support each other in their microdosing journeys.
Today, the community has evolved into a nationwide platform that continues to destigmatize the connection between motherhood and mushrooms.
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[00:00:00] Dennis Walker: Yo, welcome to the spotlight media podcast. This is the psychedelic spotlight edition, and I'm your host, Dennis Walker of the Micropreneur podcast. The world of psychedelics is moving furiously fast, and I'm going to make sure all of you keep up to speed. Today, we've got the founder of Moms on Mushrooms, Tracey Tee.,
in the house.
[00:00:19] Tracey Tee: My path is my path and someone else's is different. And as someone who was very Reaganized as well and still struggle with that programming, just being able to release the dogma that surrounded my life as I grew up and really understand that my soul knows what to do. And I'm finding my own way.
And that's so much of what moms on mushrooms is about is. Learning to trust your intuition, learning to listen to yourself, learning that you can heal yourself if you actually pay attention and having the medicine is an ally in that department.
[00:00:53] Dennis Walker: Tracey has over a decade of experience as an entrepreneur in the mom space, working with moms around the country, and she's pivoted her business model.
Into the psychedelic and micro dosing space. After seeing what the power of an intentional and transformative relationship with mushrooms did in her own life. It's an absolute pleasure to host this podcast for you. Please consider subscribing rating and sharing the podcast wherever you're listening.
And without further ado, let's get down to business. K Pasa Mufasa Tracey T. founder of Moms on Mushrooms. It's nice to see you again, Tracey. How are things in Denver today?
[00:01:29] Tracey Tee: If I'm honest, it's negative 19 degrees right now. So it's a little chilly, it's a little chilly in Denver.
[00:01:35] Dennis Walker: We're going to heat things up today.
I'm sure this is going to be a great conversation because you're so eloquent and you have such an interesting business that you're involved with, which is Moms on Mushrooms, of course. So we have to start with the origin story. How did you get involved with Moms on Mushrooms? And what is some of your back story that's led you to this position where you've got a community of moms that you're educating and rallying around and supporting?
[00:02:00] Tracey Tee: Yeah, thank you. I have a unique origin story because I came to this space by way of live comedy. But I've been in the mom, the momma sphere, the mom world for about 10 years now. I, my previous Company was called Band of Mothers and we had a live comedy show called the Pumpin Up Show that I co created, produced, wrote, performed with my best friend and business partner.
And it was really about laughing at the things we have in common as mothers. And we toured the country live on stage for over five years. Then we eventually, we started our own podcast called Band of Mothers. And then eventually we created two new casts, one out of LA, another out of Chicago to tour the country regionally.
Everything was on the up and up. We were bringing moms together. We were laughing and we were crying all the things. And then in 2020, we lost everything and had to eventually cancel almost a hundred shows within a year and lost our entire business. Because our main business was obviously the live entertainment model.
And as everyone knows, that was the first to go and the last to be helped. So during that time, I would say around 2018, I was starting down a more spiritual path. I think a lot of women in their forties, which I am start to question things, start to look at their life and say, okay, this white picket fence, 2.
5 kids scenario that I signed up for. Is not what I was expecting. It's not fulfilling me in any way. So I was going through those thoughts. And then in 2020, like a lot of people, I had this sort of massive, not I had this massive spiritual awakening that really was driven by the grief and terror.
Of losing a business in two weeks and just everything that came with nearly 10 years of work, just watching it slips of your hands like sand in a matter of days. And it was just a lot to handle, let alone just the pandemic in general, being a mother of a kid who's at school, navigating zoom and just all of the things that we went through collectively.
And the medicine had been calling to me for a long time. I, I was interested in ayahuasca way before it was super trendy. But as a mother, I was just like, when am I going to, when am I going to go to the Amazon rainforest for two weeks? That's just not something that I had a chance to do.
And as a human, I just never really did drugs, quote unquote, I never did psilocybin. I never took mushrooms in college or did ecstasy with my friends at raves. It just wasn't my thing. So when I felt this calling to the medicine, it was a little confusing because I didn't know where to start eventually with my same best friend and business partner, because she knew I was interested.
We ended up taking a big mushroom trip at a Lake in Boulder. And I went into it thinking, okay, if this feels right, if this is a transformational experience. There's something here. And it totally was. It was like the best night ever. It was just a bunch of girlfriends camping at a lake. And I just felt like I was home when I took those shrooms.
And so I was hooked and microdosing had always been really interesting to me. And again, way before this big conversation happened, and I didn't know where to, I didn't know where to start. I had talked to my doctor about it, who's a functional medicine doctor and different people. And everyone's yeah, it's, try it, but we can't tell you what to do or how to do it or any of the things I ended up finding a course online by Casey Garrett.
That actually came through my LinkedIn feed of all places. And I, I remember telling my husband, I remember reading it and thinking, okay, this is great. I'm gonna take this course. And I remember telling my husband I think I'm just going to take a microdosing course and start microdosing. And I did.
And again, I took the medicine and my life just went like that. It just really spoke to me. And I can speak to the lessons I learned from the medicine later, but. through the course of learning how to microdose communicating with other people going through this journey. One big thing I really realized was this medicine just hits different when you're a mom and the conversations I was having with people who weren't parents were just so different.
than my own experience and having lived and seen mothers and see from a show perspective and meeting moms after our comedy show, just hearing people's stories, hearing what women are going through, what they're suffering, and then knowing what the pandemic did on top of that. Everything in my heart was just like, we got to do this different for mothers.
And I believe that mothers have been largely left out of the psychedelic conversation. We're just not really included in the, as you well know, like the, all the psychedelic influencers, gurus, experts, motherhood isn't really discussed. And so I was in meditation one day and. Mom's on mushrooms came down in a total shoo me experience and just hit me like a ton of bricks and I sat up and I was like, Oh, come on.
That's so good. Certainly someone's thought of mom. There's no way went to go. Daddy looked it up. It was available. And I just was like, okay, message received. This is my new path. I don't have a business anymore. My company's tanked. But I know moms and I sure love these shrooms and there's other things too in the middle of that I had come out of the shroom closet Which I think is another thing we could talk about very important for moms and on our own instagram page on our band of mothers page Wrote a post and just said how much microdosing had been helping me and the response was amazing text messages DMS emails.
Oh my gosh, you're doing it. You're normal. If you do it, it must be okay Tell me more. I've tried everything. I'm miserable. My husband's miserable We wanted you know, and I couldn't keep up with the response from people just so positively reacting to me admitting that I had been micro dosing.
And so that was really a good impetus to the feel like, okay, there's something here and this isn't just for psychonauts and burners. There's moms in Nebraska that actually really want to learn about this, that feel like it's safe, understand it on a soul level. They just don't know what to do. And. And so here we are,
[00:08:06] Dennis Walker: That stigma has lingered for so long as you just mentioned that so many people quote in the mainstream society have for a long time thought about people who use mushrooms and different psychedelics as that burner crowd as that hippie crowd.
And I've been typecast into that for many years, and I've had a hard time explaining it. So I stopped explaining it a number of years ago. To people who come from a very traditional background and I respect them and I go, All right, when you're ready, maybe we'll talk about this. And now these conversations are happening.
People seem to be ready and they seem to recognize that maybe mushrooms and an intentional use of mushrooms and psychedelics with good guidance and good intention. It can actually apply to my life and I don't have to feel like I'm out on the commune. And, I just think like my parents are heavily recognized, right?
And a lot of family members, they have that view. Of it's like a brick wall being there. And I think that wall is coming down with the testaments, the testimony of yourself and many people like you. So I would love to hear about some of the tangible examples of positive transformation in your life and in the lives of some of the moms.
that you work with. So many people so often say mushrooms had a profound impact on me. It was transformative, but I think it's really important that we punch in and say, what transformations? And I realized sometimes, especially with bigger, more psychedelic type experiences, it's hard sometimes to name them, but maybe with microdosing, it's much easier where you can say, these are specific things that I noticed in my life.
That changed after I started microdosing would love if you can share some of those specific positive transformations and your life and maybe the lives of some of the moms that you've worked with.
[00:09:41] Tracey Tee: Yeah, absolutely. And you really made a good point. And I just want to reiterate to one of the reasons that I started mom.
Was to show people and explain that it is all about intention. I, I believe that this medicine should be done in community. I don't think that it should be taken in a vacuum and it's all about learning that intentional practice. So a hundred percent, you're so right. And that's really what I learned.
So for me, I always say is a recovering type, a Enneagram, eight Aries, all the things, all the big things. That's me. When I started micro dosing. Things just started to slow down a little bit. I started to be less reactive, which for people who know me is not one of my best qualities. And I was able to find space between my thoughts.
I was able to, instead of just shooting off, being combative, voicing my opinion super fast, I felt like I was able to zoom out, look down on my head. Look at the words forming, rearrange them, say, Oh girl, don't say that. And then shoot them out of my mouth in a way that maybe was a little bit more palatable for the person that I'm talking to.
So that was a big one in terms of motherhood, just being more present with my kid, finding less reaction, less crunchiness in those moments of parenthood where you're either. bored or you just don't want to have to do something. It feels monotonous, just surrendering to the moment and finding gratitude for the fact that I signed up for this job as a mom.
And part of that job involves folding laundry and doing lame homework and, going over spelling tests and washing dishes and all the things that can compound in a mother's life and make you feel like you're very trapped. I was able to just Not all the time mind you but more often say what a gift This is and I would say in terms of a spiritual side just deepening my spiritual practice, you know All the things we hear all the time deeper connection to nature a deeper connection to my dogs gratitude understanding That my path is my path and someone else's is different.
And as someone who was very Reaganized as well and still struggle with that programming, just being able to release the dogma that was surrounded my life as I grew up and really understand that my soul knows what to do. And I'm finding my own way. And that's so much of what moms on mushrooms is about is learning to trust your intuition, learning to listen to yourself, learning that you can heal yourself if you actually pay attention and having the medicine is an ally in that department.
So I think some top things from moms who come to moms on mushrooms who go through my three month courses, certainly the number one thing is. I want to get off SSRIs. I've been taking pharmaceuticals, antidepressant drugs for, years. I don't even know if they work anymore. I have no idea how to get off of them.
I feel trapped. And many women are able to either titrate down or completely quit their SSRIs and feel like they are not stuck in that path. So that's a huge one. Drinking is another. Moms just using, the wine culture around mothers, mommy wine time and all that bullshit. And look, I had a show called the pump and dump show.
So I, I honor that we played into that narrative quite a bit because it's rewarded for mothers to numb out in a way that's not productive. But when they take shrooms and start to expand, then everyone's Oh, what are these moms doing? And make it. Pithy and like it's comical, but a lot of moms really are able to cut back or completely eliminate their drinking and then anxiety and overwhelm and finding again, finding coming back to yourself as a woman who also happens to be a mom and realizing that you can do both so many women that come through the course, don't even feel like they deserve to take the course.
They don't even feel like they deserve to microdose who am I? I don't deserve to pay this much attention to myself. And, all I can say is. It's an age old thing when mama ain't happy ain't nobody happy. So we got to get mom's happy we have to find the joy in ourselves remember that we're women that we can have hobbies that we can have hopes and dreams and Careers or whatever we want and then we can also be great mothers and I think the medicine I think the medicine is showing up in this time to remind us of that and to help us through that I always say and so many mothers are like medicine, the microdosing I've been curious about it.
And I, and then it's all, it just shows up or your email shows up or my friend told me about you and it was exactly what I wanted. And I do think that the mushrooms, like when they hear you calling, when they know that they're it's time, like they pack their little mushroom suitcases and they just show up at your front door and they just move in and they're ready to get to work.
So
[00:14:33] Dennis Walker: I love that mental imagery right. There. That's wonderful. Yeah. Somebody please make an art concept of that and send it to me. So I'm curious about what are some of the changes that you've seen since when you first launched Moms on Mushrooms and when you first underwent this journey in 2020, what are some of the changes you've noticed as far as the stigma around mothers using mushrooms?
Because if you go back five years, There's not very much out there at all about moms openly advocating for mushroom use. Fast forward to 2022, there are a number of communities, a lot of people speaking about the benefits, right? And advocating it coming from the mothers themselves. So in the short amount of time that you've had this brand moms on mushrooms, I'm sure a lot has changed.
What are some of the changes that you've noticed over the last couple of years?
[00:15:20] Tracey Tee: That's a great question. First of all, in terms of the psychedelic community, you're right. There's so many powerful women, so many powerful mothers out there doing such amazing work and offering their own take on it and that in it of itself is just So cool that so many women are speaking out or helping other women, helping other moms.
For me, my first course would started with seven women all over the country, but who it was like this secret dark okay, we're going to do this and fast forward to now where we can't even keep up with the intake. We can't even keep up with the applications of people wanting to come into the course.
And. I've just even seen over the last year. First, it was like, okay, I'm going to do this. And it was mostly people in the spiritual world that were very centered and we're okay. And then the second round was I'm deeply unhappy. So unhappy that I'm willing to try anything, but I'm probably not going to tell anyone about it.
And now we're moving to. This is something I've been wanting to do forever. I see you. I get you. I'm grateful that this exists. Let's do this. And the excitement is palpable. And the confidence is palpable. It's changing from, okay, hold my hand everywhere, to, okay, great. Thank you for some of the tips.
Thank you for guiding me, sending me some papers. I wrote a micro dosing one on one course that sort of answers things to okay, I'm still scared. I'm still scared to now. It's I got this. I feel it. I'm going to do this. And there's like a confidence behind it. So yeah. And I think I'm sure your next question is going to be about prop one 22 in Colorado, but that really.
Gave a lot of confidence to women to feel like, okay, it's not quote unquote legal yet, but we're moving in the right direction. And that's enough for me to say, I'm going to try this. It's showing that. Obviously our federal government isn't behind it yet, but it's a movement in the right direction.
So that stigma just seems to be falling away daily.
[00:17:18] Dennis Walker: Yeah, let's dive into that because Prop 122 has generated a lot of headlines. A lot of people still don't really understand exactly what's allowed and what's not allowed. That's been an interesting conversation to have with People in decriminalized cities, there have been mushroom dispensaries popping up, right?
There was shroom shop in Oregon, and there was a number in San Francisco, so it's still unclear to a lot of people exactly what the rules and regulations are. I'm gonna work towards helping to address that gap myself, but just in terms of the general sense of excitement in your community and in the broader state of Colorado, what are some of the conversations that you're hearing?
What are some of the opportunities that you're seeing? That are coming alongside this more permissive shift into regulatory and legal accessibility of psychedelic medicines and of psilocybin mushrooms.
[00:18:07] Tracey Tee: When something is legalized, you may not totally approve yet, but you can't argue that it passed.
And so I always use alcohol as the baseline argument for anything, which as we all know, is way worse for you on every level and I'd still drink, If we're accepting alcohol as this blanket thing accessible all times of day and night in every corner of the planet, and nobody questions the dangers of that, and we're slowly introducing psilocybin, then let's talk about the balance there.
I think it just opens a broader conversation for people who have been given a lot. of misinformation over decades and we know this to be true and then it gives confidence among social circles to talk about it in a way that isn't stigmatized and that's If you again going back to alcohol and I just I looked at everything through the lens of being a parent and a mom, a lot of people now are choosing to take a museum dose if they're going to a party rather than drinking five martinis and waking up feeling like shit the next day.
And so it's a shift and there isn't as much aggressive expectation in a social setting about what substance you're using anymore. People are much more open. And I talked to so many women. They just talk about drugs now in a completely different way than even five years ago. And then on the other side, in terms of opportunities and business, I think just, it's just giving more people confidence to just be out there.
It's not legal, it's decriminalized. So the people who are really behind the medicine part and the product are still in that gray area and can't really be seen. And that's unfortunate because the next part of this is getting things safe and intentional and ethical and honoring the people that are really putting their heart and soul behind the actual medicine, not just advocacy and education like myself, but we're getting there.
So it's just a little bit brighter and sunnier conversation. I would say across all.
[00:20:13] Dennis Walker: Sure. And it's so wonderful to have communities that you can be a part of that can support that shift for you personally and collectively. And for myself, I've always had a hard time fitting into a lot of communities.
I've got great communities now. It's taken me a while to build that up. But I distinctly remember throughout my 20s, I was one of those guys who, Had a good group of friends growing up and then I went away to college and a lot of my hometown friends stayed in my hometown, go away to college for four years, live an extra year up in San Francisco, come back.
And I felt like that square peg trying to fit into the round hole, right? And I think a lot of people can relate to that. And throughout much of my twenties, I found that sense of it's difficult to make friends that you really appreciate and gel with as an adult, right? It might be much easier as a kid where you're just all in classes, but as an adult. Now, I'm in my early thirties. Just like what? How do my schedules line up with you guys? I've got great friends. I haven't seen in a while. A lot of people can relate to this. So when you're onboarding people into the moms on mushrooms community, what does that process look like?
Because I understand for a lot of people, it's a new thing to be tapping into the power of mushrooms, right? It's another new thing to be tapping into a group that is tapping into the power of mushroom. So what's that dynamic like with the groups that you work with and what's the onboarding process like for someone who's interested in joining the moms on mushrooms community.
[00:21:35] Tracey Tee: Yeah that's an amazing question and thank you for asking it because we I have and then you know My slow growing very small team. We put a lot of thought into this But so the evolution of moms on mushrooms started with three month group courses Again, I don't think this much this medicine should be taken in a vacuum I think moms coming together in community and sisterhood and learning and hearing other people's experiences with the medicine while you share your own.
At the core of that's how we learn. This isn't about me being a guru or some sort of expert. I know in my heart that we can learn about this and understand this medicine together without a lot of, again, dogma surrounding it. So my number one, most important thing is that a people feel safe. They feel supported.
they feel informed and that they are never high because the last thing that we can do as moms is take too much of a microdose and be tripping a car line. That is not at all what I want. And I really battle a lot of the American mentality, which is. Oh if I can take 50 milligrams, then certainly 250 milligrams would be better.
And more is not better in this department. So I really try to slow all that down. So if you join a three month course, we, you fill out a form, give a little bit of information about yourself. We always talk to every single person who's interested in taking a course and have a 20 minute to half hour to hour conversation with every single mom and make sure that we answer all their questions, that they understand what they're getting into, that they know that they're going to be supported, informed, and that they're going to be safe and that there is some, there is enough information to tell them the how, if they decide this is something that they want to do in the state that they live in.
Yeah. Number one, there's always a personal one on one conversation before a course. Now, the thing that I noticed is that a lot of women are very interested in learning about this and maybe want to start microdosing, but still just don't have any sense of what it is or any sort of education around.
psychedelics. And the last thing you want to do is follow hashtag psilocybin on Instagram. It's a terrible idea. So I created a monthly membership on a portal that's off social media because I fucking hate Facebook. And and Instagram I just use for business purposes only and created a portal that's basically like Facebook for moms rooms that you can join monthly.
And pay a low amount of money and you can, again, post, you can ask questions, you can read all of the resources that I provided, research, and then you can just. Submerse yourself in the psychedelic space. So you feel like you're really educated. And then if you're ready, you can take a course. And then we have that call.
So that's number two. And then number three, if you just want to know the nuts and bolts, then I have a microdosing one Oh one for moms course, it's 40 bucks. If you just want to know what psilocybin is, the very basics and also like how you do it. And I can compare. The protocols that are out there and then obviously my biggest argument is that there should be no protocol.
You're going to find what works for you and we don't have to follow like any rules in this department. So there's different tiers and different entry points for mothers who are feeling hesitancy, but enough curiosity that they want something or if they want to dive in, there's a course. And if they just want to be a part of a community and part of that community is also created.
For the moms who've been doing this medicine for decades and have been in the closet and alone working with this medicine and haven't felt like they had a community. They can come to moms on mushrooms and help with the ones who are starting off, it's very new.
[00:25:23] Dennis Walker: Let's dive in a little bit about that idea of coming out of the psychedelic closet or coming out of the mushroom closet.
It's something that a lot of people have felt more comfortable with doing with the shifts and legislation, etc. And the dialogue nationally and internationally. Obviously, it's something a lot of people are still not comfortable doing, and I know better than anyone hosting this podcast where I've got friends that would be such a great guest, and I know them, and they go.
I just I'm not in a position to do that with my work or with my life or whatever. So we have these conversations privately. But that really takes a lot of courage and you have to have the right circumstances in place in your life to be able to publicly speak about these experiences. So I want to hear about your experience coming out of the psychedelic closet as a mom, as someone who has an entire brand, an entire platform that's focused on serving mothers.
And you mentioned it a little bit earlier, some of the overwhelming response, but what was that process? for you mentally. Was it something that was an easy decision? Or was it something that really took, a number of weeks or months for you to feel comfortable to make that first post and say, I'm a mom and I'm an advocate for psilocybin mushrooms?
[00:26:31] Tracey Tee: It was the shrooms, man. I, it did take, it should take many months. And and it took a couple of large dose journeys to really be shown, in that space on three, five mil, three, five grams to be shown your Dharma to see, to understand the larger picture. And for me, I'm very God centered.
I really feel like. My relationship with God has been deeply strengthened by my relationship with this medicine. And I have such a passion for helping women, especially moms that I, who am I to, who am I to fight it? I'm just here to do. What I'm just a portal at this point. And so I really thank my larger journeys for giving me that confidence.
And then when you see that you're on the medicine path, I look back at my life of being a performer of having my own podcast, of being on TV. I've always been forward facing, and I think it's set me up for this moment to just not be afraid to come out and talk because that's what I've been doing my whole career.
My husband really supported me and that was important. We had a long talk. We, our daughter is being raised around mushrooms. She knows what microdosing is. She knows what psilocybin is. She knows what it looks like. She knows when mom leaves to go do a big journey and we feel like we just felt like it was important to say, again, if she knows what wine is and tequila is, Then let's change this narrative.
And it starts with us. So I just leave it to God, and I just do it to shrooms. Tell me truly, it sounds so lame, but I've also been very rewarded because every time I talk about it, every time I feel like there's a hesitancy or someone's going to judge me, I'm always surprised that the response is for the most part, I would say 95 percent of the time.
Oh, my gosh. Tell me more. Wow. You seem so happy. This is amazing. I love this for you. I'm so curious. There's not a lot of judgment behind it. I think the biggest stigma is the fear of the stigma right now.
[00:28:34] Dennis Walker: Yeah, in my case, it's been quite vindicating to see the way that the world has changed and society has changed over the last few years because I was an early adopter.
I was an early adopter and an advocate and I had to learn how to be quiet because it just a lot of people weren't ready for it. Didn't want to hear about it. I was so excited about it, right? It was profoundly transformational in my own life. I felt like it connected all the dots right there. I had different parts of my brain, different parts of my personality and my first of my life.
Transcendental mystical mushroom experience created a confluence of these different parts of my personality. I felt like I understood myself better. I felt like it was okay to be me, right? It was okay to be me. I always felt eccentric, like I didn't fit in. And then I realized maybe that's a gift.
Maybe this is a really precious thing and I can own this. And I think Bjork said this, who's one of my favorite musicians where With art, you can always find an artist or someone that you understand and they will understand you, even if people in your culture or your society don't understand you, you can connect with art in a way that helps you understand.
So some of my early journeys helped me to feel that sense of acceptance, self acceptance, and that actually being a little bit out there, maybe I'm just gifted, if you will, and rather than seeing that as being a challenge or something that I started to celebrate it. So that's some of in my own life, how they helped.
And now that. A lot of people are open to talking about this. People are starting to accept me, right? Be like, wow years ago, we thought you were this just oddball and going to go turn tune in, turn on and drop out. But maybe there was something there. So it is vindicating in a sense.
I'm excited about that. And I'm here for it. So let's pivot a little bit into talking about your experience with entrepreneurship because you're a third generation entrepreneur. You've been involved in multiple successful businesses. Mom's on mushrooms is the latest, of course, and in every entrepreneur's life.
As you can attest to much like in the life of every mother, which I can't speak to, but I can speak as an entrepreneur, there seems to be a never ending series of fires that need to be put out, right? There's always a challenge, a hurdle, often simultaneous challenges and hurdles that you, as an entrepreneur or a mother, bear full or large responsibility for resolving, right?
So I'm curious about in your life as an entrepreneur, what are some of these hurdles or some of these challenges that stick out that you had to resolve in order to be successful with your business? And there could be specific instances you're thinking of. There could be just more general challenges that come up.
And I'll give you an example. In my own life, Especially in regards to this podcast, it was consistency that I realized pretty early on. I have to be consistent. I can't be occasionally great, right? You have to be consistent day in and day out. You have to have a schedule and you go, if you start building an audience, you better have a podcast out every week.
You better have a couple videos to support that. You better have some content up on the website. And it took me a couple of months to realize like I need to be consistent. So that was one another one after that. Is realizing how much diligence you have to put into everything you do, right? There's no shortcuts.
And I think a lot of let's say you open a restaurant. You can't be like, I'm just going to cruise in 15 minutes late today. And I'm going to take it. No, like you have to have the onions chopped. You have to have, everything in line before that restaurant opens. So in your own experience, what are some of these challenges that you've overcome that have helped put you on the success path on the path to long term success?
[00:31:57] Tracey Tee: Yeah. You nailed a bunch of them. I would say, Anyone who wants to own their own business. And I think we're moving away from it, but there was this moment a few years ago where entrepreneur was especially with women was thrown around, if you, and I have, I've got no shade against it, but if you started, you joined an MLM company and you were selling essential oils, you were an entrepreneur, it's just, you have to have an acceptance that like every single element of the business.
Is on you is your decision and you have a hand in all of it. And so if you're going to start your own business, you have to really be ready to work. And I don't mean work a few hours a day. Work. All the time. And that is a blessing and a curse because one of my problems over the years is that I just worked too much.
You can't, because there's always something, there's always something more to be done. Always. When people like ask me like, Oh, I'm thinking about starting my own business. I'm like, I always ask are you willing to work on a Sunday? Are you willing to wake up two hours earlier, and are you willing to work before you go to bed because you don't just get to take time off all, often, especially when you're starting a company.
So I would say that's like the biggest thing. And then for me, it's always been like the, why, like, why are you doing this? Why is this of service? Why is this important? Why does this need to exist in the world? And I always try to have some sort of deeper altruistic, reason behind it, at least for me.
So I feel like I'm doing this and not just to. Not just for fame and glory. And then that's the thing too. But just why are you doing it? Why are you different? And I would say the third thing, which I've it's been so relevant to this is have a niche. Don't be everything to everyone. Stay in your lane, focus, do what you're good at and do what you love.
Like what you're the most passionate about. Because when you just say, I want to be, I don't know, I want to sell, I want to have a store and you don't have a focus on your store. You're never gonna, you're never going to feel grounded or like clear on even what your store is about. And so the, I think the more we can focus in, and I'm sure you've experienced this with your like unique brand of humor and your content, the minute you try to broaden it a little bit, it doesn't feel right.
You've got to bring it in to the very core of what you love. And I would say for moms on mushrooms, this has been the most rewarding business because I'm working with the medicine to create this business on a totally different level. I've done enough journeys and I've microdosed enough at this point where my ego, there's no ego in this game anymore.
Like that shit is gone. I don't, I'm not here to be seen as. anything other than of service to moms and of service to this medicine. And when you can release that, everything just becomes so much easier because the why is so clear. And so I'm just trying to do it different this time and not overwork myself to bring in all of the amazing women in this.
space that have so much knowledge to work with our elders to understand reciprocity and to keep everything in integrity because people deserve to be happy. And if my portal can be one stepping stone to expanding into the life that you're really supposed to have, then there's no better reason to get out of bed in the morning.
And it keeps things very clear and focused so that I don't go off the rails and go try to do something that. doesn't stay aligned.
[00:35:34] Dennis Walker: It makes a lot of sense. And I've been successful with my video production business going back a few years before this. And one of the things that's made us successful is we're very lean.
It's just my wife and I, we've occasionally hired a contractor. If we have a shoot that is needs one, but I had a friend tell me recently your team for your small business, you should be able to feed them with two pizzas. And I thought that's a great way to look at it, right? Obviously there's.
Different styles of business. But one of the things I've seen in the psychedelic space specifically is people who become successful and then they scale their teams. And then all of a sudden they've got 30 people on their staff and it just brings a really difficult situation when you start as that small business and you're successful because you have.
Your team and, how it works. So that's something we talk about a lot too on this program is like how to scale, and there's different ways to do it. Some people are very good at it. Some people are content to stay in that niche, right? And they're like, this is my niche. I want to be a small business.
That's probably a separate conversation, but it's something that as an entrepreneur is really interesting. Like you start getting traction, you've become successful. Where do you go from here? Do you want to grow? Do you want to be bigger? And why don't I segue into my final question for the day, which is what's on the horizon for Moms on Mushrooms in 2023?
You've got great traction going. You're at the right place at the right time. What are you working towards and what are some of the things that we can look forward to coming out of the Moms on Mushrooms community in 2023 and beyond?
[00:36:57] Tracey Tee: I will say this. I have two thoughts to that. One, I was just contemplating what you were talking about, and I love the two pizza thing, but it came to me.
I was really thinking about owning and running a business in the context of the mycelial web. And that if you look at expanding your business, a way for other people to become abundant and to flip their talents in and around a life that they want. And the it's about a web growing and like this continuous contribution, I think expansion is absolutely possible because the why is always clear.
And I, if I, for me, it became easier to think about expanding my business. And then I'll talk about 2023, if I look at it as. Growing that web because we're still all connected, we're just strengthening as we expand. And so for me, my biggest dream, and I have no idea how this will manifest, nor do I really care.
I just want to call in 1 million moms to stand behind this medicine. That's it. I don't know if it's a petition or everyone joins the portal or whatever. I just want a million moms to stay en masse. We stand behind this medicine is healing, and it is not only changing the narrative and the story of our futures, but it's changing the narrative and the story of our past.
Because when moms heal, and when moms understand this medicine, anything is possible in the world. We are the bridge to both sides, to the past and the future. And if mothers raise children who understand this medicine, if mothers are healed and grounded and soul focused, Oh my gosh. There will be no war.
You can't have both of those happening. So I'm calling in a million moms. That's my ultimate end goal. But until that point, so excited for 2023, I've already brought on a second facilitator. Who's an amazing mother of three. She lives in Hawaii. She's been working with this medicine for 15 years.
She's on her way to be an integration coach as well. And so she's going to be teaching courses. We're rolling out tons more programming within the portal. So if you're taking a course and you want some supplemental stuff, we'll be doing microdosing and breathwork courses. We'll be doing microdosing and womb healing courses.
We're going to be doing more in person meetups starting here in Colorado, because that's where I am first. But as we grow. Hopefully offering more sort of chapters where, so women can get together because moms are desperate for community and that's really important. And we're starting a book club and we're just excited to grow.
We're starting a grow club because ultimately we all should just grow this medicine. That's what it's here for. It's easy. It's simple. And I've got tons of moms that are really interested in cultivating it on their own. And so I'm really just listening to what the needs are and we're just adding it in.
Any moms out there who want to be a part of it, who have something to offer in the medicine space that they want to give to moms give me a call. And if you're interested in joining us and being part of this revolution, because I do think it's a revolution for mothers. This is different than Valium.
This is different than alcohol. This is true healing. This is moms taking their power back and like being the mothers that we all know we want to be. And I'm not saying that's medicine is a crutch. I'm saying it's an expansive device to allow us to be moms and women and to change the future. So just a couple of things.
[00:40:25] Dennis Walker: Tracey T, founder of Moms on Mushrooms. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll look forward to hopefully another traveling Moms on Mushrooms road show in the future. I think that'd be really awesome.
[00:40:35] Tracey Tee: It's inevitable. There's so much funny stuff. Like we got to laugh. We got to laugh about the space as much as we take it seriously.
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