Ali Levine sits down with Tracey Tee, founder of Moms on Mushrooms, for a deep, soul-nourishing conversation about awakening, breaking through the matrix, and reclaiming personal power.
Tracey shares her transformative journey—one that had her quite literally feeling like she was FLOATING out of her own home. She opens up about what she had to release in order to step fully into her purpose and passion. Together, Ali and Tracey explore spirituality, plant medicine, and the path to helping moms heal and rise.
This episode is packed with heart, wisdom, and all the feels. Get ready to sink in, expand your mind, and remember—you are NOT alone.
Read Transcript [00:00:00] Ali Levine: Hey loves, beautiful lightworkers and souls. How are you? Thank you
so much for tuning in and listening and watching. This is another super powerful episode. And I just wanted to say that I have quite a few episodes coming out that I recorded in like January and February. So if you notice that there's some timelines off or the conversations around different things, that's why.
Because I have been making episodes as much as I've been doing some stuff in really live time as well. And just really getting to connect with so many amazing guests and finding that recording space as a mom and entrepreneur and all the things you know just doing my best and flowing with it. So I just want to let anyone know who's listening You know like this one with tracy who's one of my dear friends and incredible Mother comedian now, like mushroom guru, all the things we recruited back in January.
So it is a little bit back, but this conversation is still so powerful, so potent. Can't wait for you guys to hear it. And please, as always, if you love the show, make sure you're subscribed on Apple podcasts or anywhere you listen to a podcast, platform on Spotify, Google, Android. You name it in all the places for the most part and getting picked up on other platforms.
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It is a longer episode with Tracy. We really got into all things and went all over the place between her awakening and a little bit of my own, as well as like just the collective, everything going on and then turn her new journey now. So definitely stay for the and it's a really powerful episode and.
Yeah, I just want to say send you guys so much love as we go into this crazy eclipse and swirl these energies because I'm sure feeling them. And I'm always here for you. So please DM me say hello. I love community. We love to hear you reach out, share your stories. If you ever even want to be a guest of a show and you feel like you have a story to share that's in alignment, please feel free to say hello.
And sending you all so much love and I'll talk to you all soon. Thanks so much. This is Allie back with awakening with Allie. And I'm so honored and excited to have one of my close friends, mama's powerhouses, lightworkers. Gosh, I could describe her in so many words, but I have the incredible Tracy T who is the CEO of band of mothers media, where she co created and produced band of mothers podcast, which is currently on hiatus.
And the nationally touring comedy show for moms, the pump and dump show, which by the way, guys, was just epic. Tracy is a third generation entrepreneur, writer, performer, and is not taking it and is now taking, excuse me, an exciting pivot into guiding moms along a more spiritual path. Tracy lives in Denver with her husband of 20 years.
Her 11 year old daughter and her three dogs and guys like Tracy and I have been through a lot together in our own and we've gotten even closer it's funny how we met was like just through a mom's group and connecting and being on each other's other shows and It was just so magical how we both were awakening around the same time and shared so much in each other's journeys and didn't feel alone.
And I told her, I was like, you have to be one of my first guests on my show, because this is so new for me. And I'm like taking this whole dive into this awakening space and the spiritual space, but I'm just so excited to have you Tracy. So thank you for being here to continue to awaken all of us.
[00:04:30] Tracey Tee: Oh my gosh.
Thank you for having me. I'm so I'm thrilled and I'm so excited for you and I'm so excited for this podcast and I love you and
[00:04:39] Ali Levine: all good things. So we're recording in the beginning of 2022 and just to give a little background we are doing this late in the evening because our families are basically sleeping, it's his mom life.
And also, I'm releasing this on two 22, 22. So we're recording this in January and I feel like it's funny, I was thinking about this earlier. I'm like, Oh. Do I want to record all my episodes like before and bank them or do I just want to do them closer to real time to be like within the flow but I feel like it's cool to do it beforehand to actually see like where are we when this actually launches and how much more has changed and awakened and like yeah so yeah just to give people a little back background it's January 10th late in the evening and we're just going to get into all things.
Spiritual and our journeys. And I'm just so excited for you guys to get me, Tracy, because she has been on such an incredible journey. She's become such a powerhouse in her own way, in her own light. So Tracy, why don't you tell everyone how you what awakening means to you and how you started to awaken and maybe it's just start with the journey there, because I feel like for so many, especially right now, that journey is really lonely.
And that's why I felt so called by God and my source to do this show.
[00:05:53] Tracey Tee: Yeah. Awakening I never knew what it was until it happened to me. I never heard of it before. I never never had any store and pick it out. I did not hide. I didn't read about it in us weekly. I had been I suppose opening up spiritually, I started around 2018 and in my business, band of mothers my business partner, I, we were touring the country doing a live comedy show.
I was gone every week. I was doing five to seven shows. a month while raising a kid, while running a business, while doing a podcast. And I was tired and just burnt out. And I, it's those times when you're on the plane for the thousandth time and you start to think there's something more out there than this, and I think I'm missing something.
And, I think just turning, when you turn 40. Anyway, there's something that happens when a woman turns 40. You just start to think there's something out. There's some, there's more out there. Like I'm just not interested in the things I'm interested in anymore or used to be. And so really from I'm 45 now.
So I would say the week I turned 40, which was on the road doing a show. I turned 40 in Columbus, Ohio, and did a shot of whiskey with the club owner in the kitchen with the staff. And that was how I rang in my 40th year. And even then I was like this isn't right. This doesn't feel right. So I had been on a spiritual path.
I was doing the pathway, which is Lacey Phillips's course learning about my inner child and my shadow and really I had stumbled upon the Enneagram and that really opened up a lot of things for me starting to learn about who I was. I finally, I learned my. My number. And I didn't feel like I was so crazy anymore.
I felt like somebody out there understood who I was and I was able to understand myself. It really helped my marriage. My husband did, figured out his number. It was like 25 years of therapy in an afternoon. And that was a real gateway drug for me. And then. So I had been dabbling, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
And then we were in a incredible uptick with our company. We had decided to franchise our ourselves. We were tired of performing. We needed to be back home. So we, my partner and I dumped in every penny we had and, made two casts, one out of LA and one out of Chicago at the intent that the pump and dump show would live on and would tour the whole country.
And that was a huge undertaking and it was amazing. And we had these amazing casts with these amazing, talented moms. And we had 75 shows booked for 2020. We were on the road. We were selling out months in advance. Everything was going great. And then. The pandemic happened and within two weeks we had to cancel every show for through July and then we had to cancel all the fall shows and then 2021 we didn't even try to do shows then in 20 fall of 2021 we, I thought, okay, we can scrape together. We could do 18 shows, like in our best markets, we had still, we kept moving dates from all these sold out shows. And we're like, okay, we'll try. And that's when another wave came and people were feeling very uncomfortable traveling and didn't. And I felt like I didn't want to be involved in.
I didn't want our show to have to be the show where people have to show their papers and put on a mask to enjoy themselves. It didn't feel right. That's not who we are. That's our show is about lifting up moms and community and coming together and nothing felt right about all these stipulations and all, I just didn't want anything to do with it.
And our actors were getting really scared and anyway, it just didn't feel right. And it didn't feel particularly on brand for us to tell moms, go have a mom's night out and get drunk. And then, it just didn't feel great. So had to cancel all those shows and that brought us to 2022. So in, in over, so that's like kind of the.
Overarching theme of like loss and drama and chaos and my professional life. And so back in 2020 June 24th, to be exact, I I don't even know what I had been doing like in the months prior, but I was sitting on the couch watching my daughter and my husband clean up the kitchen. And I thought I was going to float out of the house.
I thought. I felt like everything was shaking inside of me. I felt like I'm just, I literally, I was like, I'm just going to float out of here. So I'm going to float out. And my journal was there because I had been journaling a lot more and, I'd been like pulling cards and I'd been trying to meditate, but it wasn't going well.
So I like literally crawled over to my journal and I scribbled. I'm either on the verge of some massive awakening or I'm going to lose my mind. And I don't even know what those words were. Like, I don't even know why I wrote them. I didn't know what an awakening was and got myself to bed in the next morning.
One of my friends who I was, like a, like an acquaintance, but I really loved Just texted me out of the blue and I had been thinking about her because I knew that she was very spiritual. She'd been on my podcast a few times. She's like super dialed in. She's grounded. She's smart as a whip. And I was like, I wonder if Sarah could help me.
Cause I don't know what's happening to me. And then out of the blue, she texts and was just like, Oh, just thinking about you. How are you doing? And I was like, Oh my gosh. Oh my
[00:11:27] Ali Levine: gosh.
[00:11:28] Tracey Tee: I know. And I was like, I wrote right back and I was like, something's going on with me and I don't feel right, and something's happening and I think I'm, I think I'm gonna float outta my house.
And she just wrote back, can you get on Zoom right now? And I was like, yeah. So we got on Zoom and I told her everything, and she just goes, girl, you're ascending. And I was like, what? ? She's you're ascending. And I was like, what are you, what is that? What? And and from that day on.
The trajectory of my life changed forever. She ended up mentoring me every week for almost four or five months. She came over to my house. We sat outside, it was in the summer and she just guided me. She taught me all the things she taught me everything. And I, I. I just opened and I didn't know how long I was going to work with her until one day she came and all of our conversations, all of my concerns, all of my worries, all of my insecurities, not that I still don't have a million, but in that moment about like maybe being able to handle this new phase of my life on my own.
I just was talking and then I, and I got quiet and I looked at her and I said, I think we're done. And she's I think we're done. And that was another really beautiful day. She left. I was overcome with emotion. I cried all afternoon and I remember doing the dishes and looking outside and the world was like.
Golden. Everything was beautiful, brighter. The trees, the leaves, I felt so connected to everything in the universe. I felt God coming through me, in me, around me. I had nothing but gratitude. I felt love for everything on the planet. And I could not stop crying. I was crying. I cried to pick my daughter up from a playdate.
I cried all the way home. I cried while doing the dishes. And that's when I really realized like, wow this stuff is real. And and so ever since then, I've just been trying to be a better person and, D program myself from how I was brought up. I was brought up in a very conservative Christian home.
I'm, I always say to people that I'm very God led and God centered. That's for sure. Something that I still hold on to, but in terms of the parrot or the. The dogma of Christianity. That's not anything that's interesting to me. And just trying to release a bunch of fears about stepping into your own sovereignty and your own personal spiritual power and your own personal connection to God and understanding that you don't need.
A third party, you don't need a man on a pulpit to tell you how you can communicate with spirit. And it's just been an, it's just been a rollercoaster of bizarre spiritual instances. I've seen all the healers. I've had bizarre visions. I've had downloads. I've met my guides, like all it's just been a crazy whirlwind.
And that, and then here we are, and I will say. Meeting you in the height of the pandemic, you were on our podcast, right? After you had your baby. And one of the things I realized is that I've got like a good knowing, and I just know things. And I saw you come on the screen and I was like, yep, she's in, she's my girl.
And I'm just so grateful. You reached out to us and just wanted us on your podcast. And ever since then, I was like, I gotta keep talking to Allie, and and I do think that, God or source or whatever you want to call it has brought so many amazing people into my life, teachers and mentors.
And I have this whole new, soul sister group that's all over the country, but you are absolutely. In the middle of it.
[00:15:17] Ali Levine: Oh, I love that. That's so powerful. And I love how you shared, like how you went through, which I think most people do that awaken, like you go through this Oh my God, holy shit moment of am I losing my mind?
Am I dying? Am I? Yeah. What's wrong with me? Am I just going to break down and lose it? And it's in that moment, it's like we go through these like massive, almost breakdowns to go through these breakthroughs that are actually ascension, like you said. And I think so many can relate to that because I know even for me, I was like, am I losing my fucking mind?
What is going on? And then you continue in that trajectory, unless you have someone like Sarah, who's let me help you. Let me explain what's going on. There's so many people who don't have that, or they don't even know where to go. They don't know who to talk to. And they're like, I'm just losing it.
That's what it is. I've lost it.
[00:16:01] Tracey Tee: Yeah. And it's, and it doesn't, I've felt like I was losing my mind many times since then, but at least I had a context of why. So I was like, just hold on. I'll just call Ali, but I and it's lonely. It's really lonely. There's a lot of people in my life that I don't talk about.
I feel like I have two lives, I have the real me, the new me, I call it new Tracy. And then there's old Tracy who still has to show up for people who don't want to know about new Tracy. And it's really, it's in, I don't know if you remember, it was in March of 2020. I know it was 2021. It was this year or last year.
I don't time. What is time? I didn't mean that there was a
[00:16:40] Ali Levine: really what it
[00:16:40] Tracey Tee: is at all, but there was a month. It was March. I cried the entire month. I cried. Oh yeah, it was like, yeah, it's like these purges and you don't know, this is like nothing I've ever experienced before. I'm,
[00:16:54] Ali Levine: I guess in a way, yes, because like we learn as we go through this, right?
Like we're here to actually. Remember, because we've actually been in this before in some way, shape, or form, but we don't actually remember as far as our human selves, even though our soul does. And so it's like, when you're going through it, you're like having this experience and you're like, okay, I'm crying, which like, maybe it feels good to release, but I keep crying.
And then what's wrong with me, and it's it's true though. It's and then there can be so much release in that, when you're crying and you're just like letting it all out, like all of a sudden, then you realize you're vibrating higher. You're actually able to feel things on a whole new level, but being in it, like you said, it's so lonely.
And, I have to give you credit when you say that you show up in two different worlds. I have to be honest. I don't show up in another world anymore. Like sure. On social media here, they're sure with certain things with family, but. I don't even talk to half my friends anymore. And it's, and I said to my other girlfriend the other day, I'm like, it's not even, there was a falling out.
It's not even that anything's wrong. It's just literally nothing resonates for me anymore. And it's I love them. I love them madly. They were a huge part of my world and I'll always care about them and love them. But there's just nothing to talk about because for me, everything we talk about is so trivial.
So much bullshit. Oh my car, this, oh my God. And I'm so pulled away from that world now, which like no shame. Like I used to be heavily in that world. I just can't be there anymore because of how you were saying like that connection of looking outside and feeling this like amazing connection to God within you above you below you like all around you like when you feel that and you feel that gratitude and you tap into so much more you're like on such a soul level you're like oh those things don't matter and yeah they're nice but like I don't necessarily want to spend my entire day Talking about that.
Even one of my girlfriends that day was asking me, obviously being a stylist that I've all my, first careers and, like my opinion on designer bag. And I jumped on the site and I was going through, and I still, of course, like love designers. So I was like, Oh, this is pretty, it's pretty, but I hadn't that old feeling of getting so overwhelmingly excited and that same Oh, you should get the Bottega Veneta versus the Gucci, but I didn't have any of that.
And I couldn't even fake it. And I just told her, I was like, girl, you should just go with whatever honestly makes you vibrate higher. And she was like, what? And I was like, no, seriously, though, like whatever one makes you excited. Like to me, that's your vibration. Like whatever you're getting lit up about, go with that.
Don't worry about which one is more expensive or less expensive. Don't worry about whatever is trending. Like just go with what feels good to you. And I think that's where I'm at with everything. It's if the conversation just doesn't feel good, there's no point in having it. And even if it's someone like I love. I sometimes have to choose like my inner peace more and be like, you know what? Not today. Cause I don't want to bring in that energy. And I think that's another thing too. I don't know about you trace, but when you're going through so much of your own awakening and you're ascending, You start to realize how much energy really affects you.
You start to realize how much different things around you can really throw you off even more than it did before. And that's something I'm realizing over and over. And I'm like, Whoa, okay. Yeah. I'm not going to bring that into my field because like it is rocking me. I'm like, it's not worth it being where like I am going and like where I am vibrating so high.
I don't need to bring myself into that space. I will do it when I need to, but I'm not going to purposely put myself in that space. If I don't have to what is it like for you, since you're saying you still, do that side of the world with certain people and you're like they don't want to know about new Tracy.
That's hard because you are sending, you have evolved so much. There's so much going on with you, which we're going to get into. But what is it like for you to know, like when you're talking to certain people like that, that I'm sure you love and care about that they don't want to know about this new Tracy.
[00:20:40] Tracey Tee: That's a good question. And I would offer two things. One, I think when you start to tap in again to your own sovereignty, your own spirituality you start to realize who you are, like who you are in your soul. And you start to realize. Again, the interconnectedness of all living things and also what a gift our lives are.
It's hard to get excited about what Kim Kardashian is wearing because you realize, and it's very subtle, but then it, all of a sudden it hits you like a ton of bricks. You realize that you've just been asleep playing in a video game that someone else is controlling. And I'm with you. I love me some Louis Vuitton.
I love, I I used to now I'd rather buy crystals, but I, I get it. I like nice things. I like nice things in my home. I can't say that I care to ever go to a mall again.
[00:21:39] Ali Levine: Same. I'm like, if I go to a mall again,
[00:21:41] Tracey Tee: I will just be, but it's the and then I'm learning to see why.
You look at like spiritual people and they look like they're just dressed in rags because it doesn't matter that it's just an exterior. It's all a facade. And I think, especially in America, our outer appearance. Our resume that we present to friends and family and coworkers what we say we do, what we're wearing, if it's cute.
And then our knowledge of all of that stuff is our calling card. And it's what we've become used to trading to each other in order to communicate and what got left behind was vulnerability. Honesty The ability to have differing opinions. The, it truly just vulnerability the want to say you're different from me.
Tell me why tell me how I love that you're, and then love and love is something that I've had to work really hard to understand because love is not what I was brought up to understand. Love is truly. A connection from me to you and we are all connected and When you understand that it's hard to just fake it with people because like you actually love them more, like you love them so much, you just want them to be them true, their true selves.
And when they're not, you're just like, I gotta go. I can't talk about this right now. Like it doesn't mean anything, and so it's an interesting dichotomy because it's. Like on one hand you want to be around less people because you love them, but on the other hand, you just love them more, I don't know if that answers your question, but I think, so what helps me show up is that I love people and I, and there's people and everyone is on their own path.
And I always say I'm a recovering type a overachiever. I'm also a recovering empath. I spent a lot of my life. Pulling in other people's feelings, other people's heart, other people's pain. And I know that's one of my superpowers, but it can't control me like it used to. And I also spent a lot of my life trying to be the best or trying to do what I thought everybody else wanted me to do, or try not to make anybody mad or just making sure I didn't screw anything up and always moving on to the next thing.
And, I don't do that much anymore. I'm trying not to do it. So when you, those people, I guess what I'm trying to say is as a recovering type A overachiever, I've also realized that I can't put those people on my path. Everyone's on their path on their own time, but everyone is still a divine human being.
So I try to just remind myself that they have no idea what I'm talking about and that's not their fault. And there's joy in talking about. But all things sometimes there's joy in talking about clothes or if you've gained some weight or what makeup you want to wear, that's fine. It's fine. It doesn't all have to be super deep.
So that's how I guess I show up. I just try to remember that we're not all in the same boat.
[00:24:54] Ali Levine: For sure. Yeah, no, I think that's a good point. And I think that's especially where we are as a collective right now, really we're seeing so much polarization and divide over. So much, especially vax, unvax, all this nonsense.
And it's like, when you get back to but who are you as a person? I had that conversation with someone on my Instagram the other day, because they came at me. Cause they know I'm not jabbed and they were like, Oh, when you talk about blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah about the job, and I was like, look, I share what I find.
I share what I feel called to share. I don't throw it in your face and say, you must read this. You choose to read what I'm sharing. If you don't resonate with it, or you don't want to read it, don't read it. Or I'm following up or it may be period. But secondly, I said to them, they started grouping me into all these other, crazy groups.
And I said, that's very fascinating that you would think I'm all of these things when you've met me in the industry. And you actually know that's nowhere near what I was or who I've been or whatever it may be. And just because you have a narrative of what this is, that's what you're placing me in and that's exactly where we are right now with the divide and the polarization all across the board.
And when you speak to that place of love, it's true. I'm working really hard myself on coming from a place of love and knowing like that really is, how God created us, like Christ consciousness, God source, whatever resonates for you. Like when you come from love, when you are of love, that's all God wanted, that was what this world was supposed to be until it got tainted.
So it's like anything else is of something else. So it's like when you can tap into that and you can start realizing like, okay. Even if I don't agree with you or even if that doesn't resonate for me anymore, whatever it may be, it's a good place to come from, but I'm not going to lie. It's hard. Like I, even with my own family, even with certain friends,
[00:26:37] Tracey Tee: it's also, we've come, we've as a culture, I think we've come to this place where we've just.
told ourselves A plus B equals C and that's it. That's the only way to go. There's only one way to get through this pandemic. There's only one medicine to take. There's only one shot to, there's only one answer. And I refuse to believe that's true. There should be many doors opening to the same courtyard, and we should be wanting many doors.
And that's just fear talking when someone is like, and so it comes into, it's gone into politics, it's gone into health decisions, it's gone into lifestyle decisions, everything. So someone says you said this, so therefore you're this, and this, that's just. That's just putting people in boxes
[00:27:21] Ali Levine: for
[00:27:21] Tracey Tee: convenience.
I was listening to Sahara Rose and she was talking about this. She was saying, I love her too. And she was saying, you, her mantra for this year is it's not my problem. And the old, like Christian in me who feels guilty for everything was like, oh, you can't say that everything's your problem.
You have to save everyone, but I, she was like, but I, if you read something that someone posts. First of all, to make it completely about you is very egocentric. Like it's that person is posting their thoughts. Take it or leave it. But the truth is, it's not your problem. If you don't like what they wrote, it's not your problem.
It's literally, it's not your problem to correct them. It's not your problem. If it's in a discussion and there's an opportunity to discuss. fine, but otherwise just move on, go on to something else that lights you up because to say, and then to put these equations in place for people, like you didn't do this, you didn't take the vaccine.
So therefore you must have stormed the Capitol. And you've, you're wearing a tinfoil hat and you think everyone's a lizard person and you voted for Trump and, like all these things. And there's just, those equations don't, people aren't just a one size fits all. And I don't know how we got to this place.
And it's the same in spirituality. It's just because you've woken up doesn't mean you have to be a vegan and never drink again and never buy a Louis Vuitton, you can do all those things, it's just, what's good for you. And so we have to allow ourselves a different equation for each individual.
[00:28:49] Ali Levine: No, I think that's really well said. And you're right. It's this is, and we know like for those of us, obviously who are awakened, we know that this is by design. We know this is what the powers that be have wanted to put everyone in these different boxes to be able to create this segregation.
It started a long time ago with religion, then race. The list goes on now. It's just bead on bead. There's so many different boxes that they can essentially put you in left, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. When really we're dealing with all the same problems within the same evil system.
And instead of seeing it, we're just going at each other. Cause it's Oh, you put me in this box and you're in this box. So I don't like you. And look, even I'm guilty of that. Like I've even had to stop and say to myself, but even some of my close friends and family who don't think the same way as me and be like, okay, but I love these people.
I'm like. What they're my people. So like, how do I come from, like you said, a place of love and be like, but the same time, this is where I feel like it gets tricky for a lot of us, at least for me, it's like being able to still speak your truth to a point where you're not obviously triggering and getting things going, but at the same time, like being able to speak your truth and be like.
Look, this is where I'm at, which like I know I shared with you, off of here, like that I struggled with one of my family members where he didn't want to hear anything I had to say, and it was like, he's where the highway and not right into that. And I had to say a few. This is my truth doesn't matter.
Whether you believe this or not, are you aligned with this or not? I'm not telling you have to, but this is where I am. And you're not going to tell me where I'm not at, because I know where I am, especially nowadays, like you said, when you wake up and you know who you are fully in your soul and you really activate within that, there is no going back.
Becoming more and more aware of exactly who you are, who you've always been. And no one's going to tell you differently, even if you do love them so much, and that's what's been hard for me. I think the most is being able to be authentically Allie and speak my truth, but the same time still have that love and compassion.
And I'm not going to lie. It's an ongoing constant learning and evolving
[00:30:48] Tracey Tee: percent, a hundred percent. And, I've been like treated. Horribly by some people that are very close to me and it's devastated me, frankly, and not because I disagree with their choices, but because they're just being assholes and you don't have to put up with that either.
I don't. I really, I have my own opinions and you're allowed to have your own opinions about the world. Okay. Say I, I hate chocolate and I, I threw up on chocolate and no, I don't, I really don't. And chocolate, if I see it I get hives. Okay. But you love it. My reality with chocolate doesn't have anything to do with your reality from chocolate.
Now you out of respect could say. Probably shouldn't bring chocolate around Tracy, because she's going to break out in hives and it freaks her out. I'm going to do that because I love her and I can live about live without it. But what I'm not going to do is say you're a bad person because you like something that I don't like, and so I think the problem is that it's not that people have different opinions. It's that no one's allowing anyone to express themselves. Or even enter into a conversation because no one wants to hear anything except the box that they're in.
[00:32:13] Ali Levine: And what's being told to them. It's one or the other, right?
[00:32:16] Tracey Tee: That's the box you're in. You're in the box of, I want, I need somebody else to tell me what to do. And I don't really care what you do. I just don't want you to be mean to me or tell me what to do while you're being, or tell me what to do. Or yeah. So then, and then, so not only are you being mean, you're also just.
Insulting me by saying I haven't thought things through in my life. Like I don't that I'm not smart or wise, or that I'm this, and this, and I, that just doesn't get us anywhere. And we've got to get back to a place where we can break bread with people who we have. wildly different opinions because we need everyone.
We need everyone to have different opinions. We need to have, we need to come into the courtyard from a different door. That's how things are created. That's how problems are solved
[00:33:05] Ali Levine: by
[00:33:05] Tracey Tee: differing. That's how
[00:33:06] Ali Levine: God created us to be. There's only one crazy. There's only one alley. There's only one of each of us.
And, gang going back to, all these boxes. It's also you look at. All the things they've also been trying to push on society. Like you must use these terms, you must call this. And it's that's fine. If that's who that person is, then great. Then you'd be that person.
But when, again, you're telling society how everyone has to be, and you have to use these pronouns, or you have to be this, you have to be that, I'll never forget when I was on. I think I told you this. I can't remember this past summer. And I was doing one of my breath work trainings and I was being certified and they went around the room and they all gave their pronouns.
And I was the only one who did it. And I was like, I'm Allie. And everyone just looked at me on zoom. And I said, That's who I am. That's where I identify. And it was like this, like quiet, what, why didn't she like say anything else? And it was this awkward silence for two minutes.
And I finally chimed in and I was like, so I'm originally from New York. I'm a talker. I'm like, and and now live, in Pennsylvania for the summer. Cause I'm moving to Tennessee out of California, and everybody was just I, and then everyone started laughing and went back to their own thing, but it was so interesting for me because I think I'm becoming more and more an observer in my life without I've ever been before.
I think that's part of an awakening journey to you're watching things as they happen and you're observing your own life as well as the collective and those around you. Versus when you were saying in the beginning of the show that you were on autopilot. It was just go. You knew there was something more to life, but you just kept going on the hamster wheel as we all did until 2020 happened.
And so I think when you start to observe, you start to really see it. And so I did. And so when everyone was looking at me all crazy and I didn't get pronouns, I was like, I'm just Allie. There's no offense here. There's no anything wrong with what you're doing, but this is who I identify as, you know what you're saying is we have to be like wildly ourselves.
We have to stop listening to these boxes and be like, who am I?
[00:34:54] Tracey Tee: Period. It's that's just good old fashioned playground peer pressure. Like everyone has to do the same thing. No, it's not. That doesn't sound interesting. It's not interesting for anyone, even if you think it is. And it. We cannot be a homogenous society.
It's doesn't work and we shouldn't have to be. We are these, like you said, there's only one alley. There's only one Tracy. We're beautiful people that have something to offer. And everyone there's, and we can talk about the soup, but I did a a massive journey of psilocybin in November like a huge journey.
And it was transformative. It changed my life forever. But one of the messages I got was. Everyone needs to remember who they are. Everyone needs to remember. And then they showed me like how beautiful each human being really is. And I remember after my journey, I was of course crying. And and I remembered that part in.
Wonder woman, the new wonder woman. And she said it was like, she was talking about the reason why she stuck around for lifetimes on earth. And she's if they just knew how beautiful they were, how beautiful they are, they would realize they would stop fighting and that's it. That's all there is. So it doesn't matter what your pronouns are.
You're just you. It doesn't matter. Be whatever you want. Call yourself a chicken. I don't care. I just don't need to call myself a chicken because I'm not a chicken. Yeah,
[00:36:25] Ali Levine: I'm a unicorn if anything else.
[00:36:29] Tracey Tee: Yeah, you are.
[00:36:33] Ali Levine: No, but you're it's so powerfully said and I think like conversations like these help more people be able to step into and embody who they truly are and be able to really essentially awaken to that. And I think like Obviously for those who are in their awakening journey are waking up or been awake for a long time.
They've been saying like, Hey, this time has been coming. It's not like that. This is like all of a sudden Oh my God, this happened. It's it's new for us because it's like newer in our experiences, but there's so many who've been awake for so long that we both know and talk to that are like, yeah, welcome to the other side of things.
[00:37:07] Tracey Tee: Yeah. It's interesting. I always wonder about that. We, you and I have talked about this before, I feel like in the sixties, everyone was like, this is the worst time that's ever been. Nothing's ever, this is the end times. This is it. And then the seventies happened and then, nine 11 happened.
And then, I feel like Y2K world was going to end and it was Y2K and then it was Bush and then it was Clinton and then it was Obama and then it was Trump. And then it was, like everyone at any moment, I think it's always said, this is the end time. So is this really, are we really in it or is this just our reality?
Because everyone who's alive right now doesn't know any different, right. But it seems like from, and I always, I love, I always try to like talk to older people for some context and perspective and just cause at least they've been around on this earth plane a little bit longer than I have is this really as bad as we all think it is, or is it just because we have so much.
Information blasted at us, and we're looking at, everyone's acutely aware of every earthquake that's ever happened. But did those earthquakes also happen at the same rate in 1920? And we just didn't know? Or is it really bad right now? I don't know. I think it might be. I think we might be? I don't know.
I know you think, I know you think we are, and I think we are, but I just always try to keep that in check. Because I think you can almost bypass it. A lot by just saying these are these crazy times. So I just always try to bring it back and just try to make sure I believe it. .
[00:38:32] Ali Levine: Oh, for sure.
Yeah. I think I think so. I was talking to one spiritual advisor the other day and she was saying to me, she was like, Gina Roda. She was like, look, it's looks really dark for the collective right now because you have to look at it as something that is being like. On earth and everything is like essentially shaking.
And when you shake the ground, literally earthquakes and everything else, tsunamis, you name it, you're going to have more natural disasters. You're also going to have more collapses. So everything is going to look really crazy and really dark because. Like she said to me, she's like, when there's been huge change in the world, whether it was good or bad, it came from everything looking pretty dark and everything looking pretty wild because you don't make change when things are calm and peaceful.
You just don't you don't all of a sudden be like, Oh, let's change everything when everything's working, quote unquote. So when everything's a shit show, which it's been for us now. Two weeks of slows the spread. Here we are two years later. It's like, when do you start to look at things and be like something's off.
And I think that's what's happening to a lot of people right now is it's like, Oh, you told us it was this. And now it's not, Oh, you told us this was the answer. And now it's not, Oh, now you're going back on your word of this. Oh, now it's changed. So it's like all this chaos is going on and you're just seeing more and more darkness play out in my opinion.
And. Though to the collective that might maybe like, Oh my gosh, this is the end. And this is like massively insane. And what is happening? But to me personally, I'm like, yeah, this is the end of this cycle. And we're going into a new cycle and we have to see the full darkness to get to the light, to be able to like, cause the only way you have light is with the dark, as much as that sucks. So it's you have to see all the darkness. Everything has to be coming up to be exposed people, systems, whatever you want to call them in order for it to move forward for us to be like, Oh, yeah, we don't want to do things that way anymore. Let's change what we're doing, and I think a lot of people that are spiritually awake have spoken to like this new earth now earth.
It's Yeah, we can talk about new earth all we want, but let's create it now, let's start working on these communities. Let's start working on different workshops, different ways to connect different shows, whatever it may be that you can be of service in this time and help people not only to awaken, but also to heal, work through their trauma and be able to see what's going on versus I'm just sitting in victimhood because that was another thing I'm thinking about for myself the other day.
I was like, wow. I guess I was a big victim to my life and I didn't even realize it because the constant hamster wheel on the grind just kept me in this like autopilot of just thinking like that's how it's supposed to be. But now that I've become the observer of my life most times. I'm like, Oh. I was actually more just like a victim because everything was like, why is this happening to me?
What is this going on? Why am I dealing with this debt? What, why this person not like me, what happened here, but whatever the list goes on versus now I'm like, Oh, I take responsibility and it's a lot harder and it sucks. But at the same time, I'm like growing through it. And I'm like, Oh, okay. I understand.
And it's like this ripple, and so it's just interesting this time. I just, to me personally, I feel like it's an exciting time because as chaotic as it is, all this chaos has to play out. All this dark has to play out in order to get to light in order for us to be able to awaken as a collective and come together, like you're saying, and be able to have those wildly crazy conversations and not be in the boxes that we've been.
[00:41:48] Tracey Tee: Yeah, I agree. I think you made a lot of good points. I think we do have to start doing things different. I think. I think it's difficult, the chaos. I don't think anyone argues that there's not chaos. I think even the most ardent, government lover of all authority. Everyone sees the chaos.
Yes.
[00:42:11] Ali Levine: Yeah.
[00:42:11] Tracey Tee: But it's really scary and difficult and painful. If To say out loud that there's chaos or to say out loud that this isn't right, or that I made a, I made a misjudgment. I shouldn't have voted for that person, or I don't, or I just changed my mind, and that's
[00:42:33] Ali Levine: another thing.
You want to take that medicine. And I thought it was going to be something and it's not, and I don't want to do the next step in that medicine. I don't
[00:42:39] Tracey Tee: want to do any, or three is fine for me. Or, and that's the other part is that we don't, we're not allowed to change our minds anymore. It's You're, if you vote Republican one time, you're required to vote Republican for the next 25 years.
And if you make a choice all these things, if you choose your pronouns, those are your pronouns and, or any number of things. We, there's this sense that you can't say, I'm not into that anymore. Or I've changed.
[00:43:06] Ali Levine: I've
[00:43:07] Tracey Tee: changed my mind. I've changed my mind. And that's a really scary place to be in because we've lost that vulnerability part.
And so I am not sure that the chaos is going to be enough for people to say I got to rethink my former thoughts. Now, what I do. See happening more and more, and even in myself, and I'm realizing like how much fear and even expectation I have for the world is what you said, we have to start doing things different.
We, at some point, we can't just keep pulling our kids from schools every time they shut it down. At some point, we have to start a new school that doesn't shut down, we can't just go to the grocery store and be like this little sliver of cheese was all that was available to me. We got to make our own fucking cheese, and I think that might actually be a bigger step.
In the direction of new earth than even saying, I don't trust the government. It's just, we got to get back to our old. And again, I keep just talking about Americans. Cause that's what I am like that those roots of do it yourself, take care of yourself, take care of your smaller community.
Look at the people on your street and say, what can we do together rather than waiting for a savior to come and save everyone? And I think those incremental steps of empowerment, bringing it back to people, making their own decisions for what's best for them, which we've had to do for the last two years but maybe including community a little bit more in that.
It's probably gonna get us further because at this point, I was just talking to my mom about this. It's just, you never know what's truth and what isn't. We have, are we ever going to see the dark? It's all going to get spun that it's great. I just don't think there's, I'm not convinced that there's going to be some sort of dark shadow that's going to come across the planet and it's going to rain.
Frogs and we're going to see a
[00:45:13] Ali Levine: week ago,
[00:45:14] Tracey Tee: right? I don't think there's going to be zombies knocking. I don't think I'm have to take my family down into the basement and hide from zombies. I don't think that's the way it's going to work. And I don't think that some like. World leader is going to get on the TV and grow horns and morph into Balfa Met.
I just, that would be very convenient. And it would be, in some ways, great because we can be like, okay, great. Now we're moving on now. Oh, I was right. Okay, cool. I was right. Great. That was great. I just don't think that's going to happen. So I think instead we have to just say, this isn't working for me and we have to take our power back.
And we just have to say, I'm just going to do something that is going to work for me. Yeah. And I don't, if you don't like it, that's fine. But I got to be able to do what I want to do. It doesn't also mean that I'm this, and this. I'm just doing what's best for me and my family.
[00:46:01] Ali Levine: Agreed. And I think too, what you were saying, like waiting for all these like major things to happen, like maybe some things will play out, maybe some things won't.
But the thing is like you said, that consistency of taking your power back. It's like, how to empower yourself? How are you going to empower your family? What are you going to do to step out of these systems day in and day out and say, I'm going to change this. I'm going to get out of debt. I'm going to.
Make myself be more sovereign. I'm going to create my own school system. I'm going to homeschool and choose my own way of doing things. I'm, I'm going to make my own food, whatever it is, everybody's different. But like you said, also including your communities, how you create that, how you empower other people to do that.
is going to make much more of a ripple effect than just literally being like, okay we know there's darkness and we're waiting for it to be exposed. We've been waiting for it to be exposed for a long time. Especially people who've been awake for a very long time. They've been waiting and waiting.
And I do believe in one way or another, We are seeing a lot of exposure, if you're willing to see it. And I do believe there is a lot of things every day. It's very interesting that the Ghislaine trial happened. Obviously, we know all the nonsense behind that. But then, since it happened and so many logs came out, now certain people have died, and different things have happened.
And sure, you can make your own conclusions or whatever. But I personally see that as that's more exposure. That's more things that are happening, even if people aren't aware it's happening. And I also feel in my opinion, A lot of a collective who's asleep won't be able to handle knowing certain people were like of a certain thing and were dark and evil and
[00:47:29] Tracey Tee: oh,
[00:47:29] Ali Levine: And and I include
[00:47:30] Tracey Tee: myself in that department, I don't want to think that you don't want to know that you don't, and that is an earth shattering, mind blowing realization that is actually really hard to alchemize.
[00:47:41] Ali Levine: It is. And so maybe it's actually better. And maybe this is kind of part of God's plan of we're just going to let these people pass and we're going to let these people fall off. And we're just going to let them come out of the spotlight and whatever it may be, because it'll be easier on the collective to not have to face what a lot of us who, whether you want to call it red pill, the weekend, whatever it may be.
Did face and did go through. And it was like you said, very hard and very dark and very much hard to alchemize and go through. And I think for a lot of people, it's part of their own darkness. I know it was for me and my awakening. There's a lot to that. And so I wondered too okay, then maybe there's a much bigger plan within this.
And it's a lot of this is playing out the way it is because a lot of the collective can't handle it. And I also believe that a lot of these people that are not going to wake up, have their own soul contracts, as you said earlier of People have their own paths as hard as that is. And I was even for me to honor that.
And I think that a lot of those people may choose just to, physically eject out and just not choose to be here anymore, because I do believe that a lot of truth is going to continue to come. And there's going to be a lot more questioning. And some people, I feel like their program of what you spoke of that kind of video game program is going to break down because I'm not going to have anything else, sadly.
[00:48:52] Tracey Tee: Yeah, and that's, you're younger than me and then there's people younger than you there in the workforce that have a whole different reality than say people that are 10 years older than me that have worked at the company job and put money away in their retirement and invested in the stock market and done everything right.
They had the white picket fence and they did the things right and I think. What is interesting about the pandemic, or I read somewhere, someone was saying, can we please stop saying it's the pandemic? It's the way the pandemic was handled. The shit show of 2020, but, back to what we were talking about earlier, like going to the mall, what is happening to just about everyone.
Just about everyone because everyone has had to experience this time. Things are, some things are becoming much more important and a lot of things are becoming less important. And if we can just keep going with that by saying, I don't need to go to the mall anymore. I don't need to shop anymore to make myself feel good.
I don't need to drink that much anymore. I don't need to go to parties. I don't really give a flying one if I don't get invited to this. I don't need to sit and watch the golden globes. It's bullshit. It's always been bullshit. It's boring. And it's a bunch of people literally jerking each other off.
It
[00:50:14] Ali Levine: was so comical to me. They even bothered having it this year when literally yeah,
I was like, yeah, I'm I haven't tuned in years at this point, but it was just funny to me because I saw a tweet and it was like, no red carpet, no audience, no something out like it was like all these and I'm like, so what we're still gonna do it
[00:50:37] Tracey Tee: do it because we've been doing it for years and That stuff, but even that it's just going and it's just going to dissolve.
And I think that's beautiful. I think that's amazing. Let's get rid of gossip mags and TMZ and bullshit. And again,
[00:50:55] Ali Levine: really, it's really, I think when you start to become an observer and awaken, you start to realize how many distractions have been around you all along. And obviously we know by design and to keep you from.
As you said from the beginning, who you are at your soul level, because if you're distracted constantly and you're constantly, Oh, I want to be this. And I want to chase that. And I need this shirt and I want to buy that. And the list goes on myself included. You become something else than maybe who you would have been.
[00:51:25] Tracey Tee: Totally. And it's. And it's a fine line because we are humans. . We do have to wear clothes. Yeah. , we do like to adore. I got these beautiful earrings. I was gonna say, I keep seeing them ing. They're so fun. My mother-in-law gave them to me. I'm my family knows me well now they're like cute.
They know New Jersey, and I love my, I wore all my bracelets for you that, I like so I love you. Little Shout
[00:51:45] Ali Levine: my love Heather.
[00:51:46] Tracey Tee: I know.
[00:51:47] Ali Levine: 13.
[00:51:48] Tracey Tee: Love. 13. I don't, we're still, we are still humans. We are still gonna be attracted to things. The point is that what you said at the beginning too, it has to be what lights you up and there's a fine line between celebration of beauty of creation of creativity of.
Someone of artistry of art of creative expression and numbing out. And I love, there is nothing more sacred in my house than Friday night movie nights, like nothing is worse than my house. There's, I love nothing more than the three of us piling on top of each other, eating pizza and watching a movie like.
There's nothing greater in life. It's the best thing ever. We will, I will walk through Fire to Keep Friday night movie, so I will watch a Marvel movie and I am fine with that. The point is that I don't keep watching Marvel movies, and I don't always stay in a state of like dead eyes. And I understand the why behind watching a stupid movie versus feeling obligated to keep up with all of it. For the sake of just consuming. And I think that's what's falling away for a lot of people, even people who are quote unquote, like not awake, I think people are realizing, and that's, you're seeing it in jobs.
I was just talking to another one of my kind of spiritual mentors and she was saying that she's finding that men are really dropping the ball right now. And that women are really struggling, especially if you're in a partnership, because. Especially if you're in that upper tier management, a lot of those jobs aren't necessary and that in the workforce right now, essential jobs are really what's hanging on and all of that bureaucratic five VPs in one department, bullshit, like every, all of that's falling away.
So all these men. Specifically, who are just like educated white men who just got a great job and worked their way up to six, 700, 000 a year and just had to basically show up at a desk and not even do that much. Those jobs are going bye bye. And those men are having a massive reality check. And the women are the ones who are, who have been working kind of the essential jobs on the side while raising children while doing all this stuff, they're having to come in and provide for the whole family.
And it's a total. Mindfuck, and those things are, it's falling away. Like we just don't necessarily see it.
[00:54:21] Ali Levine: Agreed. And I do believe also, in my opinion, I do believe because women are the nurturers are the ones of peace are the ones of love overall. I do believe that is what's going to shift.
I really do. Even when I was pregnant with, Amelia, I remember my spiritual friends being like there you go. More peace, more love. And I was like, what? And she was like, when girls are being born, which I was happening nonstop when Amelia, I was pregnant with Amelia and then same with Arlie, it's like so many girls were being born.
And they were like, that's a really big sign, like in years to come of like, where the world is going. It was really interesting to me. Yeah. And a couple of different people told me that. And I was like, wow. And I did some digging on it. Goes back to what you were saying of like this falling away.
It's for so long we've been in a place of like war and constant competition and ego and patriarchy. Just very really to, to the men's defense. Like they're just doing what they've been told. Oh, they've been programmed, and yeah, you and
[00:55:12] Tracey Tee: I talked about that the other night too.
Yeah, a hundred percent. I don't.
[00:55:15] Ali Levine: on all men because they're so used to that. And then they're like, Oh, wait what am I supposed to do then? Because I'm the protector, I'm this, I'm that. And then now all this is falling away. So then what am I supposed to do? What is my purpose? What am I supposed to step into?
But I do believe that where we are going to see more of a rise in women in the sense of creating more communities. Creating more of different, sessions, workshops, healings that need to happen, just more change on a much higher level and activation, because that's where women do need to step up.
And I wouldn't be surprised if women become more of the breadwinners overall, just because they're going to be doing these massive, workshops and events that are needed for the entire collective. And I think that it's just, like you said, it's a falling away of systems. And that's what I see everything as right now.
It's as things happen, as we see more crumbling, like even CC, right? Everyone, even people who aren't, like you said, aren't potentially awake. They're seeing that they're full of shit. Like we've gone from two weeks to quarantine to 10 days. And now you've got five to now we're literally calling nurses on day four and saying, do you have a fever?
Cause if you don't come back to work, let's talk about that. So it's like one of my friends. Like literally was telling me, she was like, no, literally they called me and they were like, we know you have COVID, but what's it like on a scale of one to 10 and she was like, I'm in bed.
I'm tired. But, and they were like, is it a four? Is it a six? She was like, probably a five. Okay, then you can come back in two days. And she was like, I don't feel comfortable coming back. Like I'm still sick. And they're like if you don't have a fever, and then they actually said, and don't test before you come back in, because we don't need to have a, and she was just like, and she said to me, she was like, And look, me, like I've been very in the middle of all this because of where I, what I work and what I do.
And she goes, I honestly, I'm like, what is going on with my medical system right now? What is happening? And I feel like that's, what's happening all around is the more we're seeing this happen, the more there's more questioning, the more there's wait, that doesn't make sense. You're going to see the breaking away.
You're going to see the falling away, the collapse, the dissolve, whatever you want to call it, the change, because it's all necessary to happen. And I think that. Over these next, in my opinion, few years, that's what it's going to be all about. It's going to be about more chaos because it all has to in order for it to fall in order for new things to be rebuilt.
But again, to our point, being able to stay as sane as possible, being human, of course, in this time and be like, what can I do now? How can I serve? How can I help the collective? What can I do to light up my soul? Is how we move forward. So that's actually a really good segue into what you're doing now from where you were and like what you're creating.
Cause it's so cool. And I love learning about it. So why don't you share like what you're creating, what you've got that you're launching? Cause you've come from the podcast world, being, in that space for so long and a producer and having your amazing show. All of that was amazing, but like you said, In its own way, dissolved and right now is on pause and you're looking towards all these new adventures being in your own awakening journey.
So why don't you share like what that is?
[00:58:13] Tracey Tee: Yeah, so we'll, and to your point, I just wanted to comment really quick about the women thing. That's very Aquarian, right? That's right on track for moving into the age of Aquarius and leaving the age of Pisces, which is. And that is, and, maybe we need more women born because we have to tap in.
Now we have to come back to that, the divine feminine and not be so fearful of it. Men and women and integrate it into everyone needs to integrate that. So anyway, no, I love that
[00:58:42] Ali Levine: point. And thank you for bringing that up because I think too, like when you were just saying of the divine feminine, like it's true, even for men, like they've been told for so long to shut that down.
It's No, be vulnerable. Allow yourself to tap into that. And I also think to, to your point, like so much of society for so long also told us as women,
[00:58:57] Tracey Tee: Oh, I am a hundred percent because I'm way existed way with more divine masculine in me than feminine, because. That's what I had to do to get by.
[00:59:11] Ali Levine: Exactly. And that's most women. And when you step outside of that box, again, you're told you're wrong or it doesn't make sense or whatever. And now we're finally starting to see because of all these white workers, as we like to call them and star seeds and where's everything that's going on right now.
And so much awakening, we're starting to see the ship. So I do agree with you. And I do believe in my opinion, more girls will be further born. And I do think that even more of the feminine will continue to rise as we see more collapse in. Where we're at and where we're going, but yeah, tell us what you've been creating.
What's been lighting you up and cause you like literally what was it you were telling me, you just had a dream about this and then a vision and it just all came to you. So share what happened.
[00:59:47] Tracey Tee: So I in this, in 2021, so I'd been called a plant medicine for a while.
I've never done drugs. I am a lightweight. I've had a million abdominal surgeries and even took myself off everything. Like after day one, I'm just like, give me Advil, please. I don't want this shit in my body. But. Plant medicine is something that's really resonated with me. And I do think it's because somewhere inside me, I knew my heart wall was so thick and hardened that I needed something big to bring me back to myself.
And I tend to be a big person. I go hard. I go in all in and anyway, it just had been calling to me. And so I actually started micro dosing about 10 months ago. And it can you break that down? What that is for those that don't know. So I started taking very low non noticeable amounts of psilocybin specifically, which is a psychoactive hallucinogenic mushroom.
And micro dosing is. like sub perceptual amounts so that you're never high. But the medicine, the benefits that psilocybin offers over time, taking in small amounts. I take a you usually do five days on and then you take two days off start to create amazing miraculous changes, both mentally and physically and spiritually.
And I found it to be incredibly useful in so many things. It made me not as reactive. It made me much more present with my family. It made me Those trigger rage moments in the car or in a line, all dissolved away. And the best way I always describe it is that microdosing allowed me to have space between my thoughts.
I could see the thoughts forming in my head. And then zoom way out and go down and look at them and be like, nope, that is a terrible idea and kind of rearrange it all. And then let it like come out the way it was supposed to. And I went into micro dosing, helping that it would help with some weight loss because I had a hysterectomy at 41.
I went straight into surgical menopause. That is never fun for any female body. I feel like I'm 85. Most of the time when I wake up, I have zero hormones. I have no reproductive organs inside me and I, every bone in my body hurts constantly. And then there's no hormones to regulate your weight, so I was hoping that would help, but and then in my transition, when I, after I had my hysterectomy my doctor who actually is a. East west medicine doctor, functional medicine doctor. She put me on Wellbutrin to handle the shock to the system. And I'm so grateful that she did because I didn't have to deal with the massive mood swings and stuff, but I didn't want to be on that forever.
That did not resonate with me at all. So research into plant medicine, it just seemed like that was a great thing. And it really did work. I feel lighter, I feel happier. I, you have more energy. It's. The benefits of it are fascinating and I did a course and there was group calls and just watching other people go through the journeys too.
The difference if you take psilocybin versus like a traditional antidepressant and I don't, I think there's a. big need for antidepressants in the world. I think they're amazing medicine. I don't know that they're the answer to everything. But the difference is antidepressant will numb the issues and sometimes that is such a blessing and necessary if you're in crisis.
Psilocybin will take that issue and go, hi, you're going to look right at it and you're going to stare it in the face and you're going to recognize it. And then it's going to leave you probably forever. And so a lot of people go through, if they have grief that they need to deal with, they'll cry for weeks.
But it's coming out. It's not continuous grief that's on a grief loop. It's grief that comes up. You recognize it, you see it, you honor it, and then you let it go. It's yeah, it alchemizes. And so I've just been on this beautiful journey. It's deepened my spiritual practice immensely. It's deepened my meditations, my connection with God, my connection with spirit, my connection with my family all good things.
It's been great. It's been a real blessing. And. For someone who is pretty much a hippie. I don't eat. I eat almost all organic. I, we don't eat a lot of meat. I'm very conscious of what we put in our body. And I'm like super into drugs now. Seems really funny, but it. I got no problem with it. Yeah, so then I just thought okay, what have I been doing with my life?
Not much in the last two years, my business has been falling through my fingers. But I love working with mothers and on the road and doing the show. The one thing that we realized is that moms are hurting. Moms are hurting bad and have been hurting for. centuries, frankly. And we were able to give some levity and some laughter and some community when we did the live show and also in the podcast, but that's the lane I've been in for 10 years.
So I was like maybe I could do a, maybe I could talk to moms about mushrooms, moms on mushrooms, mom, moms on mushrooms. And so I am leading some cohorts now of Microdosing people who are interested in doing the microdosing journey. I'm leading three month cohorts just for moms. In a small intimate group where a group of us can go through the journey together, share our experiences.
I've been doing it long enough. Now where I can offer some advice or some perspective, and I'm just going to see where that goes for a while.
[01:06:01] Ali Levine: So cool. I love that you called it mom's cause it's it's perfect for what you're doing. Okay. So I like, other than like being an idiot and doing drugs in high school, because that was the cool thing to do.
I like really don't know much about. Microdosing. So like you just eat it like a regular mushroom.
[01:06:18] Tracey Tee: You can there's lots of different ways. I use a tincture, so you just drop it under your tongue and it's from a really good source. It's grown from growers who are dedicated to this practice. It's that only create microdosing.
One thing about plant medicine is I didn't really want to just get. Mushrooms from a friend of a friend that didn't seem like a great idea. So yeah. And so it's very regimented and you can manage the dose yourself so that you don't overdose it, which you can't really, you can, of course you can, but.
That's not the intention. And I've never once especially as moms, I was like I got to take my kid to school and I got to go to the grocery store, but you're never, ever high. You're never seeing rainbows and unicorns flying on rooftops or anything like that. I've never been
[01:07:06] Ali Levine: like tiny, obviously micro tiny little dosages, whether you're taking the tincture, you're eating it or whatever.
And because it's such tiny little bits over time, essentially. Compounds and then that's why the changes.
[01:07:23] Tracey Tee: Yeah, it actually leaves your system after 15 hours typically. So you start fresh every day, but the medicine and people who I've never done it, but people who've done ayahuasca, I'll say this, like the medicine is its own spirit.
It's its own consciousness. And it lives and it works with you and it's so hard to describe and it seems crazy until you start to try it and you understand that it does. It's working with you like wherever it meets you where you're at and brings you levels you up. Yes, it compounds. But my sense is that it compounds more on the spiritual side, the spiritual effects compound themselves.
So you're retraining. And that's the beautiful thing about psilocybin. Psilocybin literally if you're neurotransmitters in your head are like frayed, it will smooth them out and almost reconnect them to the place where they need to be. And you, there's a lot about, neuropsychology and, retraining our brain.
You've got Joe Dispenza, you've got all these people doing great work. And psilocybin kind of aids in that. And it's remarkable medicine because it it, yeah, it calms down all the frayed parts and those frayed parts are addiction, anxiety fear, depression, grief death. There's been powerful studies and progress made.
That they're giving psilocybin to people in hospice and the whole end of life experience becomes this beautiful, open hearted experience rather than being scared that you're going to die. It stops people from smoking. You stop drinking. I don't crave sugar as much. I don't drink as much. And it's it's a softening inside you that's it's hard to describe, but it's unbelievable.
[01:09:19] Ali Levine: So cool. Yeah. I'm like, so I've heard of this before and like I've heard like little bits and done a little bit of research to understand it, but I obviously don't fully understand it. And like I said, my only experience with mushrooms is either now my mud water yeah.
Or back in the day when I was doing shrooms, getting high off my ass and I was jumping out of a window. I don't know. I don't really have anything between the two. So I was like, I need to like better understand exactly like what this is. I'm sure obviously you can't fully understand until you actually go through it similar.
Obviously, I'm sure a little bit more intense being that it's a tincture or something that you're putting, in your body. Similar to like meditation, breath work, all different modalities that you actually and go through them and actually feel and see the transformation. You're not really going to know what it is until you actually allow yourself to go through it.
[01:10:07] Tracey Tee: Yeah, it's true, but it's you're absolutely right. And it's. It seems scary and that's again, programming that we've been told because we can all grow it ourselves. And, if you read Michael Pollan's book, how to change your mind, one of the best parts of that whole book was he was talking about all the scientists.
Cause back in the fifties and sixties, they were doing all this amazing work. Like they were literally curing alcoholism.
[01:10:30] Ali Levine: People
[01:10:31] Tracey Tee: were doing large dose, consistent dosages of psilocybin and they would never touch a drink ever again. It's unbelievable. It's a gift. It's a gift. It's from the earth. Like God, I think God gave it to us because we are these human dense bodies and we just can't get there.
And I think it's in the Bible. I'm pretty sure Ezekiel was on shrooms, just go up to the sky and talk to giant 10 foot angels like in. In a sane and it's in a normal sober state. Like you just don't, I'm sorry. But what was I going to say? I lost my train of thought. The book oh, sorry.
So thank you. So the there's this part of the book where he was talking about all the scientists and then this one scientist, like these men were becoming radicalized by all the possibilities of psilocybin. And this one scientist said that if we could just put it in the water, And everyone just had a little bit of psilocybin, like there would be no war because it's impossible to hate people when you are on trumes.
It's the love drug, it's water. They put fluoride and they should have just put psilocybin. Yeah. Like it's the funniest part. If anyone watched nine perfect strangers, the funniest part of that was that man was like high on. Psilocybin and killed a goat. Like you would never kill a
[01:11:56] Ali Levine: goat. Was that also, okay.
So this is, again, I sound dumb, but I don't know enough about psilocybin, but so that happening in a movie, was that basically just to program people not to get on psilocybin?
[01:12:07] Tracey Tee: I think so because it's, the joke in the community is you would never, you would be friends with the goat.
Like you would you'd be like hanging out, spooning the goat. Like you don't kill goats when you're on. And a lot of that has to do with set and setting. Those of us who I never did, but like those of us who win and, did shrooms in high school, you were also probably drinking or, and all
[01:12:27] Ali Levine: the things
[01:12:28] Tracey Tee: and
[01:12:28] Ali Levine: going,
[01:12:28] Tracey Tee: yeah, you're just like bombarding your body.
But then you were also like, I want to get fucked up. So your brain, where your intention was very different than very, yeah.
[01:12:38] Ali Levine: For sure.
[01:12:39] Tracey Tee: Yeah. So doing it under a mindful with intention, with goals knowing that it's to heal and that's truly all it does is heal you. It's just a completely different experience and it's just, you're just not going to jump out of a window.
You're not going to kill a goat. Those things aren't just, they're just not going to happen,
[01:12:57] Ali Levine: so interesting. And it's so fascinating that you shared that about, because I've never seen that movie. I'll have to go look it up, but it's on Hulu.
[01:13:04] Tracey Tee: It's a mini series.
[01:13:05] Ali Levine: Okay. So interesting because we see so much in our programming, so much of what you're talking about, the fear, like they constantly put so much in front of us that you are fearful.
And again, like program to believe, don't do this, don't do that. But then it's Oh, but once again, here's something else that like actually, could be helpful for you or healing for you, whatever it may be, but don't touch it because we're not giving it to you. So fascinating. And I didn't even know that about.
The alcohol studies and everything and helping people with all those things. So it's just so fascinating when you start to really dig into all these different, more holistic, more of God, in my opinion, more just the earth and what was already here before we've basically fucked it up.
And it's just, it's so fascinating. And I think it's so cool. Like for you being like, where you're at and like in your own journey, now that you're sharing this, like helping other moms do this too. You told us what microdosing is and walked us through all of it. So if someone wanted to do this with you so what does it look like?
They basically sign up, obviously I'll put everything in the show notes, but you basically sign up and then like you go through this experience with you and a small group and you all share what it looks like what's going through and then what do you lay out like how much essentially they should be microdosing like it's all laid out for you essentially.
It's
[01:14:15] Tracey Tee: all about education. So I've written a course and I still work with the woman who created the course that I took and she's been a massive inspiration. Another woman changing the world, of course. And and it's yeah, it's very deliberate. It's full of information. Even, access to doctors, contradictions that you're, concerns are about.
And I'm not a doctor and I'm not, this is a very new world for me, but so I'm trying to do it in a mindful way. That is safe and it honors. Health and mental health. I'm not a psychologist, but also trusting. And this is what we've been talking about, right? That we actually have the power to hear, heal ourselves.
We don't have to go to a psychologist. We don't have to go to therapy. Like it looked. Two years ago, even I'm not saying it's not good. It is, but there's options and we have the power to heal ourselves. And I think the one thing
[01:15:20] Ali Levine: we've always had,
[01:15:20] Tracey Tee: we always have, we just have to keep talking.
And the beautiful thing about psilocybin, I think more than anything. And I've had lots of people say I just want to do it, but I want to do the group. And I'm like, Ooh, it's really all about the group. The group is what is the healing part because. We are not islands. And so sharing the experience and even just hearing what other people are going through seeing, I was the annoying person in my group that just fell into flow.
My creativity, skyrocketed. I was having all these great ideas and still do and felt just. better and felt like I could exist in the world without being angry all the time. And then other people would just sit on the phone call and cry. And, but seeing and experiencing that gives you empathy and you understand that where everyone's coming from, and it educates you about the medicine and you.
That's why you need the group and you need to learn how to share. It goes back to vulnerability. We have to be able to talk about our misgivings, our insecurities and our failings. We have to be able to share those. We don't need to be perfect in front of everyone, and I think I certainly got caught up in, you can't show your emotion.
You can't admit when you're down. You can't admit when you're wrong, because if you do, it shows weakness and they'll walk all over you. And. That's just not the way we're going to get anywhere in this world. And it's just simply
[01:16:36] Ali Levine: not true either. It's not going to get anywhere. It's just not true.
It was going to be bullshit, but actually when you step into your vulnerabilities weave experience and you step into who you truly are, you actually attract so much more. You may drop some off of course, but those weren't authentic to themselves anyways, and you actually embody so much more of what you want and you're able to.
Step into what you really believe. And it's Oh, I can just be myself and be vulnerable and just be me. This is dope. I don't have to show up and put a mask on. And it's
[01:17:05] Tracey Tee: yeah, it's amazing. So yeah. So the group is really important and but there's a lot of education.
Everything from, the course that I just started finished. Like today I just wrote. all about grocery store mushrooms, because I don't think we even really understand what a portobello does, and how that correlates with psilocybe and entheogenic mushrooms.
And so the course is really robust. And then it's also like a spiritual toolkit. If you are, do find yourself on the couch next to your journal, thinking you're losing your mind. I put my whole experience. Into a teachable course so that I know that you probably have an, I certainly did like you just have so many questions and you're just like, I just need help.
I need tools. I need something like, just explain it to me. And so I tried and, with psilocybin and microdosing specifically, you just start to feel better in your body. You start to want to make better. You want to eat better. You just don't like junk food. Like literally is it doesn't feel good.
[01:18:02] Ali Levine: It
[01:18:02] Tracey Tee: doesn't feel good. So you're like, Oh, now I have to make changes, but I don't know how to make those changes. Cause I never thought about this stuff before. So I try to put all of my experience in. So it's a toolkit course. It's a little bit of my life experience. It's education and then it's group support and it's just for moms.
So
[01:18:19] Ali Levine: cool. And so how long is it for?
[01:18:22] Tracey Tee: Three months,
[01:18:23] Ali Levine: three months.
[01:18:23] Tracey Tee: I might do a six month one, but right now it's three months. So we meet every other week for three months.
[01:18:29] Ali Levine: Very cool. And so obviously if you're doing three months, like that's a sufficient amount of time for most people to be able to experience what microdosing is.
[01:18:38] Tracey Tee: Yeah, I think it's a good amount of time. Some, for some people, the medicine kicks in really fast and you start feeling changes right away. Other people, especially if you're deciding to titrate down off of antidepressant or other medicine, you've got to get that out of your body and replace it.
It's, it takes, everyone's different of course, but three months by, by the end of the third month, you're In a groove and you'll know if it's right for you and if it, if you want to continue, and now I'm at the place where I understand the medicine. And so there's many days, sometimes even weeks where I don't take it at all.
Cause I don't need it. Cause it's not like a crutch. It's not if I don't take it, you go through withdrawal. I was going
[01:19:18] Ali Levine: to ask if you like, say you don't do it for a week or two do you notice how different? You feel or like what you're experiencing, or is it literally just like whenever you want to take it because you choose to help you up level or be more creative or whatever it is.
[01:19:35] Tracey Tee: That's a good question. I like, for example, during Christmas, I didn't really take it because I knew I was going to be having more wine. I was drinking or eating big, more rich foods. I was just I didn't really have time to meditate. I was just like, I was just doing right. It's the holidays.
I just didn't, I just, but the gift was that I went into the holidays and came out of the holidays with no guilt. I didn't beat myself up for what I did. That hasn't happened in my life. I didn't feel guilty about the Christmas. I, all the things I should have done for my daughter that or didn't, I didn't feel guilty about having too much wine with my best friend.
I didn't feel guilty about gaining five pounds. It was, I just was just so grateful for the time and the celebration. And that was the medicines gift and we took a break from each other, but the gift was that I was able to just celebrate life. And yeah, I don't know. I don't know how long I'll take it.
You can. You can take it for decades. There's really no, no studies to say that there's any long term side effects. I don't, recommend doing a ton of. Massive high dose journeys, but even that, Ram Dass did hundreds lived an amazing life and wrote many books and saved many lives and influenced many people.
So it's all about deprogramming this fear of anything that's not controlled by the government or by the medical or big pharma that we have the power to take ourselves to dose ourselves to decide for ourselves what feels good and that it can change us and. And even the idea that it's a drug.
My, again, my Christian upbringing, I feel I go through waves where I'm like, what are you doing? You can't do this. This is bad, but I have to remind myself that I know in my heart that it's okay. That it's not bad.
[01:21:30] Ali Levine: It's lighting you up. And you've seen actual results for yourself.
Obviously you're going to do this whole course and everything for moms. Obviously you feel very strongly about it. You know what it's done for you and what it's transformed for you. I think you're right though, about the programming and I'm like, really the systems that we've been in for so long and whatever you want to call this matrix or whatever.
It's yeah, you're right. Like whether it's big pharma, whether it's medical, whether it's government, whether it's elites, blah, blah, blah, blah, the list goes on. All of these people have been telling us for so long, do this, not that. Only do this. This is what you take. This is what works. This is what doesn't work.
That actually is what you should fear this. You shouldn't fear. You're right. It's so much deprogramming and unlearning in our journey is being able to come back to ourselves and be like, Oh, I actually know. And I know you and I just a kind of a good way to close the show house. I know we can talk all night, it's we've talked about so much just on our own voice notes and talking on the phone.
How, like we've said we've learned so much in our own awakening journeys, how the keys are within us. And we actually have so much in us and there's so much to come home to ourselves when we actually allow it and don't question it and know that that is our intuition. That is our gut. That is God that, and we're like, Oh, I do know what to do in this situation.
Oh, I do trust versus who do I go to? What do I need? How many things, what do I buy? How to, what medicine do I take? And it's look, we all know there's certain things that exist for a reason, but the amount of, like you said, of fear and programming and of what you have to do or what you should do versus actually listening to you.
It's there's Such a disconnect. And it's I really do believe this time we're starting to see more and more of this shift. And I feel like I was telling this to my friend the other day. I do believe we're going to go back to more of what you're talking about with plant medicine. I do believe over these coming years, whether we're here physically or not, I do believe like we will see a shift and you will see more of plants come back and flowers and so much of what was already here and working a long time ago that was essentially hijacked.
I do think we're gonna go back to that because it's like that's new.
[01:23:32] Tracey Tee: Yeah. And then, like we were talking about seeing what doesn't work look at what we're rewarded for doing. We're rewarded for guzzling beer on Sundays in front of a football game. We're rewarded for getting hammered with our friends, for buying expensive wines, for drinking alcoholic sodas out of a can at the swimming pool.
We're constantly rewarded for drinking. And. Anyone who's anyone knows that there is nothing more toxic than alcohol and that's legal and we are fine with that across all cultures and religions almost, especially in America. And, again, I still drink I don't drink nearly like I used to because I don't want to anymore,
[01:24:19] Ali Levine: Do you feel like I feel like everyone I've spoken to that's woke up, so to say, and I'm like a week into their journey. Most of them like, don't drink anymore. It's like once in a blue moon or they feel like it, but it just doesn't resonate. And it's so funny. Same with me as someone who used to like. Always have a drink or go out to a party and always have a drink in hand.
Like I just, I don't resonate with it at all anymore. Every now and again, I'll be like, Oh, I'll have a glass of wine or, Oh, maybe I'll have a little bit of that cocktail, but then I order it. And can I be honest? I like have buyer's remorse immediately. I'm like, Oh no, I'll just have a water with my lemon.
[01:24:52] Tracey Tee: I do love wine and I like, yeah, but I can't.
There's like a limit. Then I'm just like, okay, one glass, maybe two. And I'm like, I'm, then I just don't like it. Cause you don't, you're not connected to yourself. They call it spirits for a reason. And I've loved bourbon for years and I can't even, I can't drink it at all. Like same thing.
I tried to pour myself a Manhattan the other night and I was like, Oh God. I got to dump it out. I can't do it. I tried. I can't do it. But yeah, so I think
[01:25:20] Ali Levine: that like just how you just said you tried, you went for it and then you looked at it and you were like, I can't do it. I think in this awakening journey, in my opinion, it's just honoring so much of what we were talking about in the beginning of this.
So much changes, so many things that maybe don't resonate anymore. So many things that you're like, Oh, I'm just not in Sun anymore. Oh, maybe I questioned that now. And I didn't used to like, whatever it is, I think just honoring your journey allows you to be more and more of this open container of kind of what you've spoken about and how you've allowed yourself to be so vulnerable and continue through the journey.
[01:25:51] Tracey Tee: Yeah. And it's, it's fun. It's fun to, it's fun to say, I'm going to take it. I'm going to take a look at this part of my life from a whole new point of view. It's fun to say. I'm not going to do that anymore. It's fun to say that's really messed up that this rule is in place or that this is, or, and it's fun to re it's fun to write your own history.
And I think, as moms with daughters, like people are like, are you going to tell your daughter that you microdose? She sees bottles of wine lying around everywhere. She, I take her to the liquor store. She already knows we consume toxic. addictive substances. So what difference does it make?
And why is one thing bad and one thing good? So it's, and that's a whole nother conversation. But the point is that we are looking at everything with a new set of lenses. And I think that's, like I said, it's fun and it's empowering and it's like it, life just becomes an adventure because when you detach yourself from what you think you have to do, and you allow yourself to think with your own brain and your hearts, your two hearts, and you actually get outta your brain and you think with these, instead the world is, she's point pointing at
[01:27:00] Ali Levine: her heart and her gut
[01:27:01] Tracey Tee: Yeah. But pointing at my heart and the world is oh my gosh. It's, I agree. I can't wait to get up every morning. That's why I wake up so damn early. Because I'm just like, you do you wake up? You're up so late. And I'm like, I gotta go to bed. I'm going to be up in four hours.
[01:27:19] Ali Levine: I've always been like, how?
That's one thing that's never changed. I've always thrived at night. I talk to God at night. I just, I've always connected at night. Why? I don't know, but I guess my guides like to rock at night, whatever it may be...
[01:27:32] Tracey Tee: me, I'm like 4:00 AM. I'm up talking to God at 4. 00 AM down here in my meditation room.
[01:27:37] Ali Levine: I love it. I love it. This was so awesome. Thank you so much for sharing, your journey and being so vulnerable and to share what you went through, where you are now, what you're creating before we like wrap things up. How, what would you say? Say to someone who's listening right now, if you've made it through this whole thing and you're still here and you're listening and you're like, all right, I may be awakening or there's something that's got to give in my life, whatever it may be, that something's shifting, that you feel a lot of people are starting to feel this pull and this tug and this shift.
What would you say to someone who might be starting to question? Maybe there is more to life. Maybe there is more. Maybe I am awakening to something like. What would you say to them that you would want them to know? Because again, this journey can feel very alone and can feel very scary that you do want to crawl backwards and go back into the programming and just say, I'll just stay here because this is comfortable, even though we know it's really not comfortable.
What would you say to someone within that?
[01:28:33] Tracey Tee: I would say, trust your gut and know that if that's how you feel you have all the power inside you to know. What you're feeling is real. And then I would say, find your people, the people you really trust and tell someone and start talking about it.
[01:28:59] Ali Levine: So true.
It's such a good point. Your soul family and tribe.
[01:29:03] Tracey Tee: Yeah. And start, you start with your, your immediate, talk to that one weird spiritual friends. And keep talking until you find your tribe and, but always trust your gut and your heart. Again, I am God led, you can call it whatever you want, but God will guide you.
God is, wants us to be happy. And he wants you to be happy. Or she or it or whatever. So if that, if you're hearing that voice, then you're good. You're protected and you're not going to lose, you're not going crazy, but you need to find your people.
[01:29:43] Ali Levine: I love that. I think that's a really good point of finding your people, because again, we talked about being alone and feeling so crazy and so much going on.
It's true. If you don't find your soul family. Your tribe, whatever it may be, the people that resonate for you, it is going to feel like you're out of your freaking mind because everyone around you is in the programming still. And you're like, what the fuck is going on? I've told you so many times that people I'm around I feel like I'm in a fucking twilight zone because I'm like, how do you not see this?
And how do you not see that? And it's frustrating and it's overwhelming and so many things, but you're right. When you find your tribe and you open up and you're vulnerable and you find your people, then you're like, Oh, okay. This is so God led. I'm meeting my people. I'm having these like minded conversations.
We're sharing our own journeys within this. There's so much beauty and you're right. I think that's such a good way of putting it is like just trusting in your gut. And if you are hearing that voice, it's no, there's a reason you're being called essentially. And I do believe many of us at this time are being called.
So thank you so much.
[01:30:42] Tracey Tee: You'd be Surprised. You'd be surprised how many people are in the same boat as you. Once you start saying it My hairstylist of 15 years. Oh my gosh. She's like my spiritual Sherpa. I can't wait to go see her. I'm going to be blonde forever just so I can see her every five weeks.
The minute we sit down, we're like, okay, what have you done? What did you ride? Tell me everything. What are you going through? And you're, you. You just never know, you never know, but you just got to be open. You got to be yourself and just be, yeah, follow your heart. And
[01:31:12] Ali Levine: I love that.
That's I love it. I love your hairstyle. It's so true that you're right. He's you never know, follow your heart, be open, be vulnerable. Thank you so much for being here. You're such a bright light. You're such a good friend of mine. And I'm so glad you got to share your journey and all you're doing.
And, I just think it's so magical. I think so many people are coming online at this point. And. Like in the sense of vibration, vibrating high and activating. And I think it's just so cool to hear everyone's stories and where they're at. Everyone's awakening journey is so different. So it's just, it's so cool to get to share and hear everything.
So thank you so much for. Being a part of my show. And of course my journey and being here to help others awaken and activate to their gifts and who they are and everyone. I hope that you feel more activated and awakened and just know that you are not alone in this journey. So namaste and thank you all be the bright lights that you are.
I am light. I am oxygen. I am energy. I am life. Feel the way its truth resonates with your inner consciousness. Feel it beyond being a vessel of energy or just the body you have. You are the living essence of the universe.
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